Annoyed at History Channel show

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So 200-yard shots require incredible skill, but a nine-year-old can make hits at 2000 yards as long as he has a 50BMG rifle. Okay, I get it now.

Tim
 
Skillet,

You forgot the one they did on oil:

We're running out, and we're all going to die.

Oh they gave lip service to the fact that some people MAY disagree with their pet view, but none of those people actually made it on air. It was just mentioned that they exist - somewhere.
 
I've got THC on now for the background noise. They're showing "Civil War Journal." I just heard the word "insurgent" used in reference to John Brown and his raid on Harpers Ferry.

While it might be technically true, it sure sounded funny.
 
Nothing before 800 yards qualifies as "sniping."

That's your definition; fine for you but not necessarily a universal truth. I think the U.S. Army qualifies its snipers at 600 yards which is more than a third of a mile.

IMHO, it's not the range, it's the accuracy and the firing from concealment. A big part of the training for Army snipers is how to accomplish their mission without being detected.
 
Short range sniping

It's not very well known, but during the Viet Nam conflict the army played with a 45 caliber rifle loaded to subsonic velocities and fitted with a suppressor for VERY short range sniping in the woods. Barnes, of Cartridges of the World fame was connected with the cartridge development. It was based on a shortened 458 Winchester case.

In this case, it's not the range, but the concealment that makes it sniping.
 
This debate was never about if they were 'snipers' or not, I'd say that in some ways they were. The debate was about the show saying how difficult the shot was, and how you needed like a super-gun to make it.
 
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