Another $50 in parts back to Lee

[stiles]

It's nice you "cut your teeth" on a Projector, but a Projector isn't a Lock N Load. It looks similar, but it definately isn't a Lock N Load. Those Lock and Load bushings ARE GENUINELY faster. I KNOW, because I OWNED a Dillon, remember?

I'm not going to tell you that you're a mechanical klutz. Again, a Projector isn't a Lock N Load. It's a very different press, though it looks the same.

Now come on the first generation Lock-n-load press was just a projector with the lock-n-load bushings, around '03 Hornady revised the primer system, changed the shell plates yadda yadda.

So how is it faster to individually change each die with the lock-n-load bushings verses change 1 toolhead? I really don't care how long it takes to make a caliber change within reason but the only thing that bugs me is having to organize all the dies that are in the lock-n-load bushings, if it wasn't for that I would call it a push regardless of speed (within reason).

What little parts for the case feeder? What station 1 locator parts?

I though you were familiar with a 650 sorry my bad. The station 1 locator is the little slidy thing at station 1, and the small parts for the case feed would be the casefeed arm bushing, the case feed adaptor, and the casefeed body bushing. If you need further clarification please consult dillonhelp.com

Oh...that's how you save money with Dillon caliber changes. Ya gotta cut corners, I get it now. I'll check the link out and see what it costs that way and I'll pass the link onto my buddy. Yes, I'm busting your balls, just like I bust his.
To not be an total horse's rear, he busted my balls during the Hornady upgrades to the shellplates and primer systems. But now they're done and past history, he's hating it.I got all my parts free, just like he does with his Dillon, except with mine, most stuff is steel or aluminum and no "small" parts.

I should note with the Hornady, anything you buy related to a caliber change is made of steel. Once you buy the shellplate #1 (.45ACP, 30.06 and similar bases) and the one for .223, you cover most of the calibers. I only needed 7 total to cover most all the calibers I could ever dream of load. Bushings coming cheap in the ten pack. I guess you could add a powder measure or two, which ain't cheap.

If you took the time to see what that utility was you wouldn't have busted my balls for doing the same thing your doing, it's just with that utility I set up a database of what conversion parts I own and then I can choose a new caliber I want to load and right click on it and pick the "what do I need..." option and it tells me what part numbers of the individual parts I don't already own. It's the same thing as using tables and checking against your inventory it's just much easier.

Yes, takes a couple of minutes to do. Just bend a "U-shaped" bend in the ejector spring towards the rear of the press. Bend in two places to form the "U." 1. Bend once close to where the ejector spring wire is located and 2. bend close near where the ejector spring touches has the bend that goes into it's retainer above the shellplate. Measure the die intrusion into the wire and use this distance and add a couple thousandths to get your bend radius. You can use appropriate sized drill rod (It's nice and stiff.) to make the bend radius. When you're done, polish the ejector spring rod with sandpaper, then green scrubby pad to insure smooth ejection.

I apologize, but I suck at posting pictures on the internet. I suspect the description above should be adequate for someone that owns the press. It's a simple mod and Hornady could be making these springs like this, but they're being turds and not helping Lee. Maybe because it's the competition. Hornady crimp dies clear. Not sure about Dillon dies, they may also clear.

No problems with the picture, the description helps I just gotta stuff it away where i can find it in case I run across someone that need the 411. Thanks.

The new case activated powder drop is out the middle of this month. MidwayUSA is already displaying prices ($45.99) for it. It fits the original Lock N Load powder measure, has a slightly different operating mechanism and has belling expander inserts one can buy ($7.99 each) in most all popular pistol calibers. I Dunno about the Lee Patent, is that way Dillon presses are so expensive? Having to pay royalties to Lee for using so many Lee design patents?

Tricks? That was a cheap (The price of one Lyman die set.) and easy mod. And I know Dillon owners mod their presses, because my buddies that own Dillons have modified their presses. Is it only a modification if it's on a Dillon press and it's a "trick" if it's done on "non-blue" presses?

Good to know that is the revision that's being done. Now Dave, are you really that touchy? Trick, mods, tips, none of these things denotes anything bad, it's not s slur. Yes I have a modified indexing detent spring which slows down how fast my press stops indexing so it doesn't spill powder on pistol ammo (not that it was bad to begin with it's just better now). Anybody that has any progressive press will have some sort of mods they come up with to suit themselves. As far as the patents, Dillon and Lee have exchanged patents, you use mine I use yours type of a thing, other than that I don't know if either pays royalties.

Big whoops. This same crowd (I know, I'm a gunsmith and I work on their guns.) pisses off more money on gadjet guns trying to win than one can shake a stick at. Most of them don't. Win, that is. I see a lot of guys paying high prices for various guns, then they end up bringing them to me to fix some issue or another. I see this REGULARLY. I also know of other firearms that are as good and most cases way better than the ones they spend their money on, but the snob factor won't let them buy the less expensive gun, because they wanna feel "secure" emotionally in their purchase and get oohs and ahhs at the range.

That's really classy, they are nothing but a bunch of know nothing snobs that spend too much money on guns. Let me ask you thins Dave, has any right minded intelligent person ever bought anything other than what you think is the right choice? Why do I see more personal attacks from the non-blue camp?

It's great - has a hole right down the middle of the ram and a tube that you can use to feed the spend primers through a hole in your bench to a trash can or bucket below.

The Lee linkage is very similar to the RCBS Junior press linkage and is very efficient. It's hard to say, but the Lee may have even been less effort than the RCBS.

Good to hear the primer tube catch thing works as described, it looks like a really nice press. I'm not running out to pick one up but it's something I keep an eye out for and if I can get it for a song I'll get it.

I assume you're talking about the LEE classic cast turret press. But you should realize that press has an auto indexing turret. And wether your auto index the turret or the shellplate, the automation is there. The Lee also has automatic powder dump and a fairly quick manually operated primer feed system. I would guess it's probably capable of 300 rounds per hour if the guy works at it a little bit. Most 550 owner really aren't doing any better speed wise and the LEE classic turret press fully set up is less than 200 bucks, including dies. Hell, at that price difference, the two presses shouldn't even be comparable or close to comparable output wise. Another example of new designs being more price efficient. If I were looking at the 550 because I didn't need high output, I'd look hard at the Lee classic cast turret as well and spend that extra money on loading components.

Hmm, you might be a candidate for the LEE for such purposes, it's a cast iron press with an excellent linkage design, the same one that's on the classic cast single stage and has the nice spent primer dispense as well. I'm buying one for loading milsurp rifle.

I was talking about any turret press actually, I'm just not looking for one ATM. I do think your doing a bit of an apples to oranges thing here but I have no love for the 550 so it's all good. One question about your interest in the turret press for the rifle, why wouldn't you just load for it on the Lock-n-load? Maybe I shouldn't ask you may take it as some type of implied slander but really I'm just curious.

No, I couldn't help him or I would have. But I did defend him and his press, along with offering him encouragement, which is what YOU DILLON KOOL-AID DRINKERS DID NOT DO, which is WHY I posted. You guys just attacked his press and did the "buy dillon" kool-aid rant.

Why would I defend something I have reservations about? I never told anybody to just buy a Dillon in response to a reloading problem, the most I have said about YellowLab's problems is I hope he get's his press running! Please don't put words into my mouth and the kool-aid thing is tired. If you would like to know my name is John not you guys.

One last point and this is the bottom line. You Dillon owners need to learn to RESPECT the choices of others if they didn't choice Dillon.

Respect is a two way street. In this thread I have not seen anybody make a personal attack towards somebody for not choosing Dillon equipment, but it has been insinuated that former Lee owners that moved to Dillon machines are idiots, that 90% of the progressive reloading crowd are idiots, and that competitive shooters which overwhelming use Dillon presses are know nothing spend happy snobs.

Good day

 

[stiles]

Actually I have offered - just did it without the background noise. I'm with Yellowlab on the "Show me". My offer stands - I'll send you a video of my press operating at a capability rate of 1000 rounds an hour (WITHOUT A CASEFEEDER) . You in turn practice up and then send me one showing the same thing or one that surpasses it. Even if you can, and I don't think you can - you are not going to exceed by enough to justify three or four times the price. When the casefeeder is attached, my throughput then kicks into high gear and I have a video of that too. Let's exchange, shall we?

Good deal on helping him out, I really do hope YellowLab get's his press running with the small primers.

Your a hoot on the video challenge. If I were to take the video challenge it would be a race to a 1000 not a burst contest, but man that would be the most boring videos ever. I don't know if it would be high comedy or just mildly retarded for two grown men having a reloading shootout grudge match, but it would be something. I'll think about it because something about the idea of a reloading shootout grudge match just cracks me up to no end but I'm really not to interested in proving anything.

 

[YellowLab]

Booring video's? They have LUMBERJACK races on ESPN2 all the time. How exciting is SAWING A LOG? But they do it, and we watch it. Maybe we want to see a foot get sawed off? (Wasn't that in a movie?)

Basically till I SEE IT, I WILL NOT BELIEVE IT. Glossy brochures are one thing. But take a Dillon 550, STOCK OUT OF THE BOX and do the 500 or 600 they say you can do in an hour. I bet you don't get more than 100 done before your primer tube is empty. And STOCK presses only get 1 tube... with no loading tray. I doubt that the Lee's priming refils will be dramatically faster but enough so to make a difference. On top of that can anyone actually get all the hand/eye jobs correct for an HOUR STRAIGHT?

They are ALL GOOD PRESSES... THEY ARE AS GOOD AS THE MONKEY PULLING THE LEVER!!!!

 

[caz223]

Why all the bad karma in this thread?

 

[stiles]

No I don't watch LOG SAWIN!!!! OMG that cracks me up!

Now if your asking cause you really want to know about the 650 I'll tell you what I know. Can I operate the press for an hour non stop, yes but only after I got the roller handle, when I had the ball my palm would start to cramp after about 200 rounds and it would become annoying after 300 or so rounds and I would just walk away from it. When the primer buzzer goes off I pull out the primer follower flip up the buzzer switch and drop another tube and put the follower back on top. I have 11 primer tubes in each size. The press is pretty good about just letting you just load bullets and pull the handle, the only time my hand comes off the crank is when primer system buzzes at me. All I do with my left hand is load bullets.

 

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

"Now come on the first generation Lock-n-load press was just a projector with the lock-n-load bushings, around '03 Hornady revised the primer system, changed the shell plates yadda yadda."

Just like the first dillon was what, the 450? What's the 450 gotta do with the 650, except it was the path Dillon got there?

"So how is it faster to individually change each die with the lock-n-load bushings verses change 1 toolhead?"

5 seconds per die if you go slow. Seriously, it's true, one reason why I love the thing.


"I really don't care how long it takes to make a caliber change within reason but the only thing that bugs me is having to organize all the dies that are in the lock-n-load bushings, if it wasn't for that I would call it a push regardless of speed (within reason)."

Amazingly, it's not, because you just throw the dies back in the die box, just like you would on a single stage. So when you're ready to throw them back on, it's just twist and click, done. I know that's hard to believe, but sometimes the truth is strange. I did not originally buy the lock and load for this feature, but rather so I could quickly swap out an individual die if I wanted to tune the press to load a special cartridge, like swapping a neck sizing die for a full length resizing die at station 1. That's where the Hornady can really shine, if you use it to to load rifle, which I have done a lot in the past. I have both bolt and semi-auto 30.06 rifle and it's wonderful to load for both of them.

What little parts for the case feeder? What station 1 locator parts?

I though you were familiar with a 650 sorry my bad. The station 1 locator is the little slidy thing at station 1, and the small parts for the case feed would be the casefeed arm bushing, the case feed adaptor, and the casefeed body bushing. If you need further clarification please consult dillonhelp.com

I'll pass, because the Hornady has a lot fewer parts to change over and I'm not saying that as snobbery, it's just true. When I load on my buddy's, which I have, to help him get ready for a match, he handles any setup and issues, I'm just the operator flunky. BTW, I do think the 650's are great presses, just pricey with a lot of little stuff to buy.


"If you took the time to see what that utility was you wouldn't have busted my balls for doing the same thing your doing, it's just with that utility I set up a database of what conversion parts I own and then I can choose a new caliber I want to load and right click on it and pick the "what do I need..." option and it tells me what part numbers of the individual parts I don't already own. It's the same thing as using tables and checking against your inventory it's just much easier."

I can see you doing that, but with Hornady, adding new calibers is pretty much just adding a shellplate, and/or casefeed plate, new dies (If you need them.) and two or three Lock N Load bushings. I just buy the bushings by the ten pack when I need some. I add shellplates as I need them. Simple and not real pricey.

"No problems with the picture, the description helps I just gotta stuff it away where i can find it in case I run across someone that need the 411. Thanks."

You're welcome. A suggestion: Do what I do when you see somebody post a good post on any type of press on the net. Save it to a word document and keep a file with such documents called reloading/pressisssues or something like that.

"Good to know that is the revision that's being done. Now Dave, are you really that touchy? Trick, mods, tips, none of these things denotes anything bad, it's not s slur."

Heck no, I was sitting here laughing and was basically carrying on for the fun of it. Keeps me entertained while I'm waiting for the blueing to finish it's cycle. (Today is "dunk the gunds day" for me and I get some time between dunks which average 30 minutes.)

"Yes I have a modified indexing detent spring which slows down how fast my press stops indexing so it doesn't spill powder on pistol ammo (not that it was bad to begin with it's just better now). Anybody that has any progressive press will have some sort of mods they come up with to suit themselves. As far as the patents, Dillon and Lee have exchanged patents, you use mine I use yours type of a thing, other than that I don't know if either pays royalties."

I wonder if that's why my buddy swapped out his Dillon measure for a Hornady one to load powder. The Lee Auto Disk design doesn't (this is word of mouth only, mind you and not from me, I heard it third hand from a lame horse.) appear to handle powders like 4895 all that well. He was trying to reload 30.06 and got aggravaged, asked me about my measure, then bought one, put it on his Dillon.


"That's really classy, they are nothing but a bunch of know nothing snobs that spend too much money on guns. Let me ask you thins Dave, has any right minded intelligent person ever bought anything other than what you think is the right choice? Why do I see more personal attacks from the non-blue camp?"

Maybe because you are in the blue camp? An us vs. them thing? About the "classy." I see more guys buying certain brands of guns because of reputation than because they're genuinely getting a good gun. I know, because they bring them to me to work on. My point was, just because a bunch of people buy something, doesn't make it the most intelligent or best choice. I'm not a person that's impressed with "everybody's got one." Never have been, never will be. So that sort of information doesn't make a point with me. You're a smart guy, you can offer more tougher discussion points than that and I expect you to.

"Good to hear the primer tube catch thing works as described, it looks like a really nice press. I'm not running out to pick one up but it's something I keep an eye out for and if I can get it for a song I'll get it."

If you have a buddy with an FFL, they're less than 60 bucks wholesale from Jerry's Sport Center in PA.

"I was talking about any turret press actually, I'm just not looking for one ATM. I do think your doing a bit of an apples to oranges thing here but I have no love for the 550 so it's all good. One question about your interest in the turret press for the rifle, why wouldn't you just load for it on the Lock-n-load? Maybe I shouldn't ask you may take it as some type of implied slander but really I'm just curious."

A new toy, curiousity somewhat, I wanna see if I can use it to speed up reloading for the 600 yard line on high power rifle. The LEE turret has some interesting design potential that may allow it to load very accurate 600 yard line high power ammo at close to a progressive rate of speed. But the really hard core reason is my son, who's off to college, started at gun club at UNC Chapel Hill, is getting all kinds of opportunities to shoot and has been talking lately about "borrowing" my progressive. IF he takes it off to college, the Lee Classic Turret will be less money out of my pocket to replace and appears by all accounts to be a top notch press, plus that turret will be a little bit safer than a progressive for the young man to reload on.

"Why would I defend something I have reservations about? I never told anybody to just buy a Dillon in response to a reloading problem, the most I have said about YellowLab's problems is I hope he get's his press running! Please don't put words into my mouth and the kool-aid thing is tired. If you would like to know my name is John not you guys."

Fair enough, I was generalizing, but sadly, I've seen it and experienced in enough posts of my own from Dillon owners that after awhile, ya tend to talk back. Nice ta meetcha John. I'm Dave.

"Respect is a two way street. In this thread I have not seen anybody make a personal attack towards somebody for not choosing Dillon equipment, but it has been insinuated that former Lee owners that moved to Dillon machines are idiots, that 90% of the progressive reloading crowd are idiots, and that competitive shooters which overwhelming use Dillon presses are know nothing spend happy snobs."

I have seen it both ways. After a while, the whole "You should buy a Dillon!!!" chant gets tiresome. Frankly, the reason I haven't bought some Dillon equipment is over the years reading reloading forums, I got tired of hearing it. So I (and others who own other types of equipment) got to the point we started chanting back. When the Dillon owners in general stop that and start offering more intelligent reasons than "everybody has one, you should to" whenever anybody has a problem with their press, I'll stop.

My apologies to Yellowlab for jumping on his thread.

 

[Master Blaster]

Hmm I wonder why it is that folks get so worked up over this??????

I have a Dillon 550, I have loaded about 60,000+ rounds on it over the last 7 years. I have not had to replace one part on it not one. Not even the smallest spring or piece of plastic has broken or fallen off of it. I have never had a single primer detonate ever. I have never had a squib load off it either.

It works with boring reliability for the 6 different calibers I use it to load.
I only own one powder measure, I move it from tool head to tool head. Tool heads take 10 seconds to change. The measure I twist the bolt on it and it takes me 4 or 5 throws to adjust it with my balance.

as far as it being a turret press...............

Its not. If you think its a turret press, a little clue for ya: Turret press holds one round in the shell holder. Dillon 550 holds 4. Turret press you rotate the dies 4 times and pull handle 4 times to make 1 round. Dillon 550 makes one round with each pull of the handle.

I would never recommend anyone who owns a Hornady or a Lee buy one ever. The machine you already own is the very best. Lee parts never break and their machines never malfunction or blow primers. DILLON IS CRAP, so please dont buy one 'Kay??????

You stick with whatever you like, and I'll stick with what I like so go have some gatoraide or ensure or whatever it is you drink.

Have a good day.

 

[stiles]

I think your sunk on the LNL if he's going to borrow it, better get something quick!

Naw the index detent spring mod has nothing to do with the powder measure itself, all it does is reduce the pressure the detent has on the shellplate and when it stops indexing it doesn't snap into place as hard which sometimes causes a few kernels to fly out.

It may shock some people in this thread but I actually have an origional Lee Reloader in my collection of gear. No I wasn't around to buy it I'm a second generation reloader my partner got it, it's all his fault!

 

[redneck2]

Man, you guys have got WAAAY too much time on your hands. Some of these replies must have taken an hour to write

I have a great idea. Get a life

 

[YellowLab]

No no no.. get a Dillon!

Relax.. its all good fun.

BUT (there's always a BUT).

Even the MIGHTY DILLONS are not as capbile out fo the box as a Loadmaster. Why? You need to sink $80+ in parts to do the same thing I pay $30 for. (Delux calibure change or whatever its called). And unless you buy the primer tubes at like $6 a pop you are gonna stop every 100 rounds, just like the rest of us.

Paying all that money for stuff that other presess do either out of the box or for 1/3rd the price should entitle you to brag about it... you have no money left to buy supplies!

For every Dillon owner that get board with reloading cuase thier press 'just works' there are just as many Brand X reloaders that can say the exact same thing.. but for 1/3rd the price.

One day I will be one of THOSE people

 

[Rockstar]

Yellow: You won't pass the spelling/grammar test required of Dillon purchasers.

I think the Hornady is a good press. I KNOW the Loadmaster is a p.o.s. Caliber changes don't cost me very much for my 650---you're way off on the caliber change costs.

Save your pennnies; buy RCBS, Hornady, or, Gawd forbid, Dillon.

 

[Uncle Don]

I think the Hornady is a good press. I KNOW the Loadmaster is a p.o.s. Caliber changes don't cost me very much for my 650---you're way off on the caliber change costs.

Why do you think the Hornady is a good press and how do you know that the Loadmaster is not? Did you own one and couldn't run it and then assume it's the press? Tell us - how much is a caliber switch when the casehead is different? After all, we don't want to go running around making claims of which we have no factual basis.

 

[snbend]

Yaaaawn!

 

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

redneck,

Not they didn't. I type 135 WPM. I did it while I was waiting for the stuff to finish blueing in the tank instead of twiddling my thumbs, as my work is caught up (thank God, no weekend work for once). Dunno about stiles though. I'm sure he was entertained though.

 

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

For all you guys that think a 550 isn't a jazzed up turret press:

For those that "Balderdashed" me, here's some food for thought. You just might wanna go to this link:

http://www.eguns.com/Dillon_Precision/AT500/at500.html

and read this (a quote from the link):

"AT500 Advanced Turret Reloading Press

The AT500 is a great starter press. A stripped down RL550B, it can be slowly upgraded to a full RL550B as your needs expand. Able to load over 40 calibers out of the box (excepting dies, which need to be purchased separately), it includes such RL50B features as the interchangeable toolhead, standard 7/8” x 14 dies, and the dillon lifetime “No-BS” warranty."

Hmmm......Note the fact the AT500 turret press is a stripped down RL55B. So, if that's so, then the statement the RL550B is just a "jazzed up" aka "upgraded" AT500 isn't so nutso after all, eh? I guess if Dillon thinks it's a turret press, so it must be a turret press, eh? Maybe we need to figure out the a better definition for a progressive press.

I propose this definition for a progressive press to you:

"A round with each pull of the handle" is actually nothing more than advertizing hype from the sales department. Besides, with the RL550B, you do not produce a round with each pull of the handle. You have to rotate it's shellplate turret. In fact, with most "progressives" available today, you have to do more than just pull the handle to produce a round. You may have to insert a case or you may have to insert a bullet or both.

A better definition for the purposes of deciding upon and purchasing a reloading press would be: "A home use progressive is a reloading press that's as affordable as possible, but automates every process possible, except for actuation of the mechanical operation of the press, which is done by actuating the handle to reduce purchase costs for the home reloader."

If one uses this definition and integrates the the concepts of practical efficiency and cost efficiency, one can make very good reloading press purchase decisions, regardless of brand.

By this definition, the only press that makes the label progressive is the Lee Loadmaster. Everything else is a turret. I hate to say it, but that includes my beloved Hornady.:banghead:

The ACC tournament is on, so I'll get back with this and do a reloading efficiency vs. cost efficiency analysis on the various presses. Should be fun and give some food for thought.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Johnny Guest]

Okay, now. Enough of this one.

I'm disappointed that our Handloading and Reloading forum, normally a quiet, technically oriented, backwater on THR, has deteriorated into a bickerfest, over, of all things, progressive loading presses. Heavens! You'd think the topic was Glock vs. 1911 or .45 vs. .40 vs. 9mm.

Perhaps this is my fault for being too laid back, allowing things to take their own course, and simply deleting the few instances of ugly language.

There have recently been a number of really acrimonious disputes over presses. Looky here - - This is a technical forum. When a member asks a serious question, in an earnest quest for knowledge, it is not the place or time for cutesy little digs at the other guy's apparent choice of loading gear. It makes sense to point out if the member is laboring under some false impression. It is only nice to indicate that Brand Z has a problem with the little safety chain breaking, or Brand Q's pretty blue paint fading when exposed to sunlight.

So, here's the drill. Say whatever you wish in direct answer to the question posed, writing about the brand in question ONLY. If Member Joe asks the question, answer Joe. If you have personal experience with that brand of gear, fine, say so. If you personally own a bit of gear that is better in your mind, you may mention it gently. You must NOT belittle or demean the other guy's choice of gear. Do NOT comment on any answer given by other members. You make your answer, they make theirs. It was mentioned above that some of these posts probably took hours to write. Friends, I trust you are justifiably proud when you post some magnum opus. I respectfully ask that you carefully proof read and edit it to assure there is no personal attack on any other member, no silly slams or funnyish flames. If there are, your carefully crafted composition will disappear, waft away like smoke in a breeze, evaporate like dew in the desert, go - - Well, you get the idea.

THR moderators and staffers do have a life away from the board, and it is possible that I'll miss some infractions for a few days. I take heart, though, in the number of members who are apparently becoming equally impatient with flames, silliness, and antagonism. More and more are clicking on the little red Report Bad Post triangle. I'll personally review the material before I erase anything. Please, treat one another with respect, so it is not needful that I cause your finely wrought writings to disappear. I've resisted the temptation to delete several posts, or even the entire thread. I've left it alone as an example of what we're trying to cure here.

Oh, while we're at it, please discontinue the bandwidth-wasting practice of posting nothing other than some emoticom (smiley face -- or whatever) or "I agree," or, worst, the "+1" entry. If you have nothing to say, please - - say nothing. In that they indicate nothing, nothing will be lost when the post is lost.

I will "Sticky" a version of this post on H&R forum. I'm closing this thread now. If you feel the need for input, please PM me, send an e-mail, or start a thread in Technical Support.

To all who are doing well and will help out, thank you all for your cooperation. For those who will not, well, see you around.

Very sincerely,
Johnny Guest
H&R Moderator

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