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So my take is that kitchen chefs are making public policy in the UK.... :neener:

[checks calender]Nope not April 1st[/checks calender]
 
Chopping off hands won't work because I have seen so.

Mark Speckman is the head football coach at Willamette University in Salem, Oregon. He was born without hands. He can play tennis, raquetball, baseball, and other sports you would think he couldn't. He was a linebacker in college and was even once called for illegal use of hands, when of course that would be impossible.

I am fairly certain that if he wanted or needed to, he could end someone's life wielding a knife.

He's also given the only motivational speech I have ever attended that was worth a damn.

Mark Speckman bio
 
2 news channels this afternoon claimed that the proposal to ban Kitchen Knives is being supported by a majority in the parlament.... :banghead:
 
I read somewhere that one of the overlords in China banned all metal utinsels because they could be used as weapons; and that is the reason the serfs used (and use) wooden chopsticks.

I don’t see a problem here: the limeys should be able to adapt chopsticks to eating fish and chips.
 
:barf:

...and when criminals move away from stabbing on to slashing,
they'll ask manufacturers to make knives with a dull edge?
What'll they ban when thugs punch and kick their victims?

Oooh, ooohhh.... let's not forget hurtful language, while we're at it.

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You have no knowledge of history!!!
I don't know that is directed to,but I'll respond.

Mete, it was Louis the XIV who mandated rounded point knives.
Of course,you can now buy pointed knives in France now,but France still has strict knife carry laws that date back to WWII.
In the 19th century U.S. merchant sailors were not allowed to carry a fixed blade or pointed folder at sea,so sheepsfoot knives became popular among sailors and still are today.
At one time China required that the village knife be chained to a rock.
Both of these laws are no more now.
 
I like these quotes -

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.
And
"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."
Now where have we all heard something very similiar to these???????? :rolleyes:

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2 news channels this afternoon claimed that the proposal to ban kitchen knives is being supported by a majority in the parlament

We'll have to see what happens,but I stand corrected if that is the case.We'll also have to see if the law will passed in its current form.
This will undoubtedly make santoku style knives popular if it does pass.
 
Here we go with "NEED" again!

This is just to stupid to even bother with explaining why 24 out of 27 of my kitchen knives have points instead of rounded or cut off tips..... As to the British chefs I'd like to know who the question was posed and would the chefs give the same answer if the question was can you do your job with blades less then 6 inches long. The answer of course is yes but there is a reason why I use my 12in chef blade instead of a 5.5in boning knife when I'm chopping, its just plain easier
 
Next it will be bricks, bottles, chains, cricket bats. One of these days they are going to figure out how to ban the right objects.

Yeah, and what chefs did they talk too? In my kitchen we have lots of knives, some with points some not - all usefull, all needed.
 
Yeah, buddy, gotta ban them kitchen knives. We just had an incident at Montgomery Mall in Betheesda where some whacky woman one day out of jail stabbed two women at random in a Nordrtoms with a pair of butcher's knives taped together.

After all, only butchers are 'professional enough' to handle butcher's knives.

Knife control NOW!!

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We always ask gun-grabber types where it ends? I think this is our answer. It doesn't end.
 
I hope they ban knives. Seriously.

This experiment of transforming a (once) free country into a slave state must come to completion.
 
Oh no – if they take away their knives, how will the British make that slop they pass off for FOOD.
 
I just set a letter to the BMJ. It hasn't appeared on their website yet, but the other responses that have been posted are equally critical (and rather shorter). http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/330/7502/1221

I am writing in response after seeing an article about this editorial on the BBC news website.

When I was first alerted to this idea, my first thought was it must be a spoof. The notion that anyone, let alone people as educated as doctors, would consider banning (types of) kitchen knives to be either justified or practicable seems incredible. Various criticisms / points to consider (in no particular order):

• Contrary to the implication of the editorial, long pointed knives are useful. I use them when preparing food. True, I could use a different design, but often a large knife with a point is simply the most effective tool for the job.

• But even if they were not “needed”, why should people not be allowed to use them if they so wish? This is (supposedly) a free country. Surely people should not have to prove a “need” in order to be “allowed” to do anything. Rather, the government should have to prove a need to ban something. And I would insist that such a ban is neither “needed”, justified, nor practical.

• If a criminal or violent person wishes to cause harm, then there are many, many “weapons” they could use. Bricks. Bottles. Baseball bats. Hammers. Chisels. Frying pans. No laws can remove all potential weapons, and violent criminals by their very nature will tend to break or circumvent laws. And even if all such “weapons” were somehow removed from the world, death or serious injury can still easily be inflicted with fists or feet. (Should the possession of steel-toe-capped boots be prohibited except for licensed builders?)

• On the other hand, kitchen knives, and any other improvised (or even genuine) weapon have no mind of their own. Without a criminal or violent person to wield them, they are harmless. They are harmless when sitting in a kitchen draw. And they are harmless when held or used by the overwhelming majority of the people. The vast majority of the owners of kitchen knives are of no danger to anyone, and will not be made any less dangerous by the removal of (some of) their knives.

• Further more, banning and removing these knives will require enforcement: if someone chooses to ignore the ban, then home searches, arrests, the potential threat (or actual use) of force by the arresting officers, fines, imprisonment, etc. All of which are harmful to the arrestee, and their family, and out of all proportion the “danger” that they pose to the public. Not to mention the waste of police and court time and resources that could be spent on pursuing those who are an actual danger to the public.

The original article in the journal mentioned that "a knife with a short blade such as a craft knife may cause a dramatic superficial wound but is unlikely to reach deep structures and cause death", but I resisted the urge to say that such weapons can "bring down commercial airliners".


By the way, did you know the opposing front benches in the House of Commons are two sword-lengths apart, to stop MPs from stabbing each other.
 
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Well - from my culinary experience a point is needed - instance filleting etc. Further to which - from a ''slashing'' POV - any knife, even short and with rounded end, can do plenty of damage.

That' okay, just allow pointy knives for trained and licensed chefs. :rolleyes:
 
Where is the link to this proposed law people?

Have doctors in the US ever proposed bans on guns? Did their proposal make law?
 
Have doctors in the US ever proposed bans on guns? Did their proposal make law?
Hi Iain .... Not so much proposal per se but - there is a common tendency for Docs to ask patients if they own guns - and seemingly many doctors are anti. Nothing into law at all but - from my perspective, as a group - I feel they sure would like to see a ban.

That's as far as it goes right now.
 
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