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a lot of the people in the colonies were considered british "subjects" so they could actualy emigrate legally.and now they are paying for that.europe is only 20 miles away and theres a tunnel.also theres plenty of guns that have never been turned in that were aquired in WW2.:rolleyes::uhoh:
 
Yes the colonists were subjects until independence was declared. At that point we no longer wanted to be under British rule. The King did not care and considered it treason, which is a crime. So depending how you look at it most revolutionaries are considered criminals by the ruling parties. This is still the case in many developing countries today.

The difference between a war of revolution and an act of rebellion is which side wins the fight.

Colonists vs England. Winner: Colonists. War: Revolution.
CSA vs USA. Winner:USA. War: Rebellion
 
Well, if they're going to arm their police, at least they do it mostly right (I do think there are better choices than Glocks).

Of course, a small number of British policemen were always armed because of special duties, like dignitary protection and other assignments. If I recall correctly, they were issued the same sidearms as the British Army. There were also a few armed offender squads that had handguns. I think most of those were S&W revolvers.

It's interesting to note that not only the politician and the chairwoman of the Gun Control Network campaign group (why do you need a gun control group when guns are already basically outlawed except in certain, very restricted cases?) were opposed to the armed police officers, the majority of the British police are also opposed to being armed. British ballistic vests had to be modified because the primary threat wasn't bullets, it was knives.

Sadly, the influx of immigrants has really destroyed the fabric of what used to be England, though the fabric was pretty shabby even before them. English criminals, by and large, really did not use firearms. Not only did it aggravate the offense, it destroyed any sympathy the public might have for the crook. English gangs, which used to be just as violent as gangs anywhere else, seldom had any weapons other than knives. The main gun problem was in Ireland and sometimes that bled over into England itself. Now, the flood of people from countries where guns are more common, even if no more legal, and the availability of guns in many parts of Europe and the Middle East has made things bad. I have several friends in England and they are all concerned about the immigrants who (surprise! surprise!) are also taxing Britain's social welfare system to the breaking point.
 
Maybe we could swap some brits that think like us for some out of work politicians in about three years. Then stop letting them come over here anymore.:D In 200+ years they haven't figured out which side of the Atlantic is best to be on, so suffer.
 
UK has been socially engineered into Socialism since WW2 - everything that was fought for is somewhat of an ironic joke - the UK is the Light beer version of USSR and Nazi Germany rolled into one...

I know that will ruffle some feathers, but its closer to the truth than most know.
 
The main problem they are having is not so much with the local gangs but with Turkish, Arab and other ethnic gangs from foreign countries that have immigrated to the UK, and most of them illegally.

Sound familiar?
Darned Irish and Italians.
 
Gun Control Network campaign group which is an MP's wife and about 3 others even more irrelevant than our National Rifle Association:uhoh:

compare London gun crime to most US cities similar size that also have gun bans (how exactly is that suppoused to work? we are an island and we do have customs and borders so its quite hard to get hold of guns and ammo)
doing pretty well.
 
Got into a talk with a classmate at school (college) he brought up a truly amazing statistic, gun related deaths are down. He had to argue that lacking the ability to defend ones self and the increase in crime was worth it. I got him to agree that banning knives was the best next step, seemed a little off when I took his, we were having lunch, and most knife crime seems to be committed with kitchen cutlery, not those 'evil black' knives.
 
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