I disagree with those who believe we should embrace these people and help them to "see the light" ...
These idiots should be discarded. The gun community needs a good katharsis of all the anti-gun traitors, haters and saboteurs.
I'm sorry, but you can't go from "the AR is a terrorist weapon" in your line of thinking to "oops, I just made a mistake - I love EBR's!"
That's like being a Jew all your life and then one day saying "oops, I made a mistake" and in 24 hours you're a die hard believing Catholic. Sorry, just doesn't work that way.
These beliefs and ideas are formulated over a long time and have various basis in experience, thought, reasoning and judgment. Again, you don't go from being a capitalist to a communist in 2 days, you don't go from being a liberal to a conservative in 2 days, you don't go from being an AR-15 hater to an AR-15 lover in 2 days.
Now, this fellow talking about the 870 isn't as bad as Zumbo. He's part of the denial crowd who thinks their lousy hunting firearms are safe from the gun-hating extremists who will never stop until every firearm, including toys, BB guns, and even swords are banned (like in other countries). These people can be made to understand that nothing is safe from confiscation or bans - by using EXISTING examples of that. One of which was already listed in this thread.
Now, if these hunter types still don't give a damn about bans on semi-autos or EBR's because they are convinced that their firearms are safe in spite of the facts - then they are a bunch of self-serving, selfish, narrow-minded bigots. They are part of the problem, not part of the solution. They are an obstacle to freedom an they are just as bad as the anti-gunners since their rhetoric is like pure poison in that it undermines our efforts. You'd be surprised what this "testimonial" effect has on middle of the road people on this issue. When someone sees a hunter say "I don't care if you ban that AR, they're not for hunting" they've done more damage than any anti-gunner on the news or TV spreading their lies. I've seen this effect with my own eyes. It is damaging.
Some people believe that we shouldn't alienate them because then, to spite, they may work against us more. How can you get any worse than condemning 50% of the firearms in this country at a national level?
The trashing of Zumbo was very appropriate, and he should have got much worse. This sends a message to the other bigots who harbor anti-blackrifle feelings to keep it to themselves and to shut up, or they'll be wiped out of the industry.
Our community doesn't need anymore anti-blackrifle confessionals from a bunch of people who believe the founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment so they can duck hunt.
