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Decided I want a little bit smaller 1911 to carry. I want one of the "CCO"-type guns.

I know of the original Colts. Kimber has the compact which is a 4" model. Dan Wesson has the 4.25".

Whats your take on these? Any other models available? I do not want a 3". Right now I'm leaning towards the Kimber or DW because I'm not patient enough to wait on a Colt.
 
The Kimber is my carry piece. I have a series I aluminum compact. It even runs with a shock buff. Accuracy is as tight as my 5" Kimber and close to my STI Edge.
 
Fuff: Wow thanks for the heads-up. I'm new to the Colt scene. But isn't that a standard Commander model and not the CCO with the Officers grip?
 
I think that its a stock Colt, late model, little used, from a reliable source. You can e-mail them for more details, but as you can see time is short.

In addition, a thread is running on this forum where someone may be selling a blued steel Combat Commander of 1975 vintage in about the same condition, but no box. This may be your night.

Edited to add: I didn't notice that you wanted the Officer's Model grip. Maybe this won't work after all. Well you have a little time to think about it.

One other possibility. You might find an Officer's Model and then have a Commander upper unit (slide, barrel, bushing, etc.) fitted to it. Then either keep the short Officer's Model slide and components, or sell them to pay for part of the conversion.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong like I said I'm still trying to learn it all.

It is my understanding the Commanders have the full size Government grip. And that the Officers model has the smaller grip. Am I correct?
 
Old Fuff, can we really trust someone that thinks their Colt Combat Commander has a 4 inch barrel? :neener: :evil:
Description for Item # 27589336

Here we have a Colt Combat Commander. This .45 pistol has a four inch barrel with an excellent bore. It comes in a wood case. See photos.

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Thanks for the help. By the time I had the Commander and a Officers frame I'd have a pretty penny in her. But it is an option I'll keep in mind.
 
Buy a Commander

Buy an Officers Model ACP

Swap the uppers.

Keep the one you like.

Sell the other one.

Oh yes, there are prople who will buy the large grip with the short slide/barrel.
 
If you want a 1911 carry, Ed Brown has a couple of great "bobtail" backstrap 1911's, a bit pricey, though worth every penny.
I was skeptical till I holstered it in my IWB - makes a big difference.

Next would be any commander's sized 1911 that has a good melt job to try to hide those corners and also prevent the backstrap corner from digging into your ribs.

I'm a big fan of stainless, and love my Kimbers, but you'll probably want to go polymer frame for CCW (much much lighter).

There are some really tiny 1911's out there, mostly for BUG's, like the Warthog and Nitehog, but I haven't shot those yet.
 
A Colt LW Commander is WORTH the wait- I found mine by accident after I had gotten a Series 80 Govt.
 
Bratch:

I jumped in a little too quick last night and at first didn’t realize you wanted a Commander sized pistol with a short rather the regular grip. I apologize for the confusion this caused.

Colt and others have made pistols in this configuration, but the folks at Hartford didn’t offered it as a cataloged model, at least not for long – it was more of a special run sort of thing. Finding one would be difficult, and finding one at an affordable price would be even harder. It is, I think, an exceptionally good idea for a concealed carry pistol, and its unfortunate that Colt didn’t do more with it.

To get back on the right track and go forward – you have several options:

1. You can search the auctions and websites for one of the Colt pistols and hope that if you find one you can afford to buy it. This is always possible, but not likely.

2. You can buy one of the Colt clones (Kimber or whatever) that offer the kind of pistol you want. This is the easiest way, but I am not always satisfied with they’re quality. On one side you have satisfied customers. On the other just the opposite. Getting a good gun seems to be associated with the luck of the draw, with each gun being an issue onto itself.

3.You can buy an aftermarket frame and slide in the sizes and/or materials you like and have a pistol assembled to your own exact specifications. This method is more common then you might think.

No matter who does it, Colt, Kimber or a custom builder; they all so the same thing by mating a Commander size upper (slide assembly) to a Officer’s Model frame. This is not particularly difficult because the Officer’s Model frame was originally made by shortening a standard Commander frame – which is slightly different then the full-sized Government Model frame. But anyway, your basic perceptions are correct.

I have personally carried an original Lightweight Commander since the later 1950’s and been well satisfied. One of these days I may pick up an Officer’s Model (lightweight or steel) frame and assemble it into the kind of gun you have in mind. The cost will be modest because I can cannibalize the Commander for most of the parts, including internal lockwork, to make the “short gun,†and if I change my mind I can restore the Commander to exactly what it was. I don’t need two complete guns to do this, just the Commander, a second “short†frame, and a few pieces of lockwork and grips that are necessary for the Officer’s Model frame and not duplicated in the Commander.

I hope you will find all, or at least some of this to be helpful.
 
My first 1911 (and only one for now) is a Kimber Pro Carry II and I love it. I picked it up from gunbroker for $550 and it looked like it was hardly shot. Not the case now cause I have put quite a few rounds thru her. Only problem I had was with the original Kimber mag. Changed to Wilson mags and have not had any problems.

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