Another NRA BETRAYAL?

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ANOTHER NRA BETRAYAL?



by Nicki Fellenzer





I was hoping to not have to write another column about the NRA this soon, but it appears the millions of NRA members who believe in the Second Amendment are getting screwed by the prime protector of their Second Amendment rights yet again.



If they’re not getting actively screwed, they are certainly getting passively screwed, and that may be even worse - because you don’t know it’s happening unless you look.



What am I talking about?



I’m talking about the insidious collaboration of notorious enemies of freedom such as Chuck Schumer and supposed “Second Amendment supporters†like current NRA board of directors member Larry Craig (R-ID) and another NRA golden boy John Dingell (D-MI) on the “Our Lady of Peace Act.†This is a partnership manufactured in the very depths of anti-freedom hell, and one on which the NRA is keeping conspicuously silent.



The “Our Lady of Peace Act†is legislation introduced in the Senate by infamous anti-gunner Chuck Schumer and the usual band of anti Second Amendment slime, Ted Kennedy, Blanche Lincoln and Richard Durbin. But some may be surprised at the Republicans – supposed protectors of our right to keep and bear arms – who also signed onto this travesty: Orrin Hatch, Larry Craig, Lincoln Chafee and John McCain. It shouldn’t be surprising to those who actually pay close attention to how these particular “pro-gun†politicians vote, but I’m fairly sure some of you will be unpleasantly surprised to find out how these Republicans fared in the ratings released by Gun Owners of America.





Schumer: F-
Chafee: F-
Kennedy: F-
Durbin: F
Lincoln: F
Hatch: C-
McCain: C-
Craig: B






Are you shocked to see seven out of the eight dwarves with wholly unacceptable ratings from Gun Owners of America? How about current Board of Directors member Larry Craig? Are you surprised to see his name as one of the co-sponsors of this fascist bill?



What about those, who along with ardent anti-gunner Carolyn McCarthy co-sponsored the House version of the bill?



John Dingell, Tom Davis, John Conyers, Doug Bereuter, Bart Stupak, Christopher Shays, Michael Ferguson, Harold Ford, Pete King, Jim Langevin, Clay Shaw, Bill Pascrell, Randy Duke Cunningham, Ellen Tauscher, Mark Foley, Mark Souder, Barney Frank, Jim Moran, Martin Frost, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Howard Berman, Jerrold Nadler, Bobby Scott, Mel Watt, Zoe Lofgren, Lois Capps, James McGovern, Jim McDermott, Steve Israel, Marty Meehan, Sheila Jackson Lee, William Delahunt, Robert Wexler, Anthony Weiner, Tammy Baldwin, , Robert Andrews, Rahm Emanuel, Timothy Bishop, Adam Schuff and Ed Case?



McCarthy is a notorious gun banner who merited an "F-" rating from Gun Owners of America for her efforts to destroy the right to keep and bear arms. Conyers, Bereuter, Stupak, Shays, Ferguson, Ford, King Norton, Franks, Jackson-Lee and many others on this shameful list shouldn’t come as a surprise either.



But John Dingell? The NRA’s Golden Boy? The former NRA Director? The same guy who voted in favor of the 1994 “Assault†weapons ban and then resigned from the Board of Directors the day after the vote? The same Dingell who received the NRA’s Harlon B. Carter Award, despite voting for an outright gun BAN? The same Dingell that coined the term"jack-booted thugs" when referring to the BATF? THAT Dingell?



Again, those of us who follow the politics shouldn’t be surprised. Dingell merited a mere “D†from Gun Owners of America, while the NRA licked his boots and gave him prizes for being such a staunch defender of freedom. Dingell and his buddy Larry Craig, a current NRA Director are co-sponsoring the House and Senate versions of the “Our Lady of Peace Act†and Sarah Brady is shouting from the rooftops, gloating and praising this “bi-partisan†effort to relieve us of our rights.



What is the “Our Lady of Peace†Act?



It is legislation meant to strengthen the NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check) System. It offers financial incentives (read: bribes) to states in order for them to automate mental health records and improve the effectiveness of the background check system. But this legislation is much more than that. The system already forces the citizens of the United States wishing to make a Constitutionally protected purchase to prove their innocence to the feds to be “allowed†to make said purchase.



This new bill, S1706 (the Senate version) and HR3237 (the House version) will require the states to turn over a number of personal and sensitive records for the feds to peruse before imperiously deciding who merits the right to keep and bear arms. Mental records will be turned over to the federal government, tax records could be released as well as any arrests, regardless of whether or not they led to any prosecution.



But you already knew about the dark implications of this bill. It is the same “Our Lady of Peace†Act introduced by Carolyn McCarthy last year. Little about it has changed. However, what has changed is its chances of passage.



I get the NRA-ILA alerts in my email box nightly, and while the anti-gunners have been screeching from the rooftops about the bi-partisan cooperation to get this travesty passed, the NRA has not mentioned it at all, even though Larry Craig, a current member of the Board of Directors is one of the co-sponsors of this legislation.



I have searched the NRA’s website for any mention of the two “Our Lady of Peace†Act versions. Not a word. Complete silence. Not a word about Larry Craig’s and John Dingell’s efforts to further erode our constitutional rights. Not a peep about the NRA’s support or lack thereof for the “Our Lady of Peace†Act. I found this curious, since the “Our Lady of Peace†Act has the potential to create just what the NRA vociferously opposes – gun owner registration.



And just as I was about to call the NRA and ask what was up, I connected the dots.



The night before I was surprised to read that notorious enemy of freedom Tom Daschle all of a sudden made his support for S.659 - "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" – public. Daschle signed onto this bill on September 25, allowing Chris Cox bragged about it on the NRA-ILA’s website that day. Newspapers and magazines touted this new development, and the anti-gun JoinTogether summarily condemned this bill and asked its misguided, fanatical followers to call and condemn his betrayal of their treasonous cause. Daschle’s support for S.659 pretty much cements its passage. Earlier in the year another infamous Second Amendment enemy Frank Lautenberg was promising a filibuster to ensure that the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act fails, trying to ensure its failure by forcing a 60 vote end to debate.



I was shocked to read of Daschle’s support for S.659. After all, Daschle is a sworn anti-gunner. It was quite a wonder to see him sign onto the NRA’s pet legislation – legislation that the NRA has been promoting and fighting to pass all year. And yet, on September 25, 2003 Tom Daschle publicly hyped his support for this bill – one day before Larry Craig – an NRA director announced he was co-sponsoring the “Our Lady of Peace Act.â€



I’m not a conspiracy nut, nor do I don a tin foil hat on the weekends, hoping to prevent government agents from reading my brain waves, but I gotta tell ya -- the timing of these two surprising events is more than just coincidental.



While the anti’s are praising the “Our Lady of Peace Act†as a bi-partisan effort to reduce crime, something which this misguided step toward tyranny has absolutely no chance of accomplishing, the NRA is conspicuously silent on the issue. At the same time, the NRA is touting the sudden and significant Daschle support of their pet legislation that was in danger of being filibustered in the Senate by ardent Second Amendment enemy Frank Lautenberg.



Here’s what it looks like to me: It looks like a bribe – a “you scratch my back, and I’ll scratch yours†scenario to allow both the anti-gunners and the NRA to claim small victories in their causes. The NRA finally gets its gun industry protection passed, claiming its heroic defeat of the evil antis, who are trying to kill the gun industry by suing it out of existence. And the anti-Second Amendment zealots like Americans for Gun Safety Foundation, can now claim victory for “the linchpin behind the nation's gun laws.â€



Never mind that this act is just another step in the gradual repeal of our freedoms.



Never mind that this act poses serious threats to medical privacy and paints anyone and everyone who has ever sought help from a mental help professional with the broad brush of potential felons.



The NRA is keeping silent on the clearly anti-freedom actions of one of its directors, and now I realize why. They’re getting their back scratched with the, what appears now to be, seamless passage of their pet legislation, and this smells like payback.



So it appears once again that the NRA is playing politics with our rights.



It appears once again that the NRA is betraying gun owners in order to be able to claim victory for a bill they had been pushing vigorously for months.



It would be a loud and rather profound defeat for the NRA to lose S.659, so it appears they arranged an under the table deal to ensure this doesn’t happen.



Question is: will you allow them to get away with it?



Nicki Fellenzer
 
A lot of people sit around scratching their heads wondering why the antis come up with insane proposals which haven't got a chance in hell of ever being passed.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that they know the NRA is willing to compromise and they use that to their advantage. These idiotic proposals are used as sacrifices to get their true agenda in place. They trade these rediculous proposals away at will. Worthless bargaining chips that the NRA sees as compromises on the antis part.

Those gun industry suits are going nowhere. Courts have been tossing them out left and right. How important can that legislation really be considering damn near every state already has court precedent against them? So you're thinking they are trading OUR privacy off so manufacturer's can feel good? Sounds like par for the course to me.
 
mental institutions...

So does this bill make it a crime for a person who has been in a mental institution or seen a psychiatrist to buy a gun?


From the ATF:

(B5) Are there certain persons who cannot legally receive or possess firearms? [Back]


Yes, a person who –

(1) Has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year;
(2) Is a fugitive from justice;
(3) Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;
(4) Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution;
(5) Is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United states or an alien admitted to the United states under a nonimmigrant visa;
(6) Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
(7) Having been a citizen of the United states, has renounced his or her 8 citizenship;
(8) Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; or
(9) Has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence cannot lawfully receive, possess, ship, or transport a firearm. A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year cannot lawfully receive a firearm. Such person may continue to lawfully possess firearms obtained prior to the indictment or information. [18 U. S. C. 922( g) and (n), 27 CFR 178.32( a) and (b)]


This bill will be giving states some taxpayer bucks to update their criminal records and make them accessible to the feds, including your mental records and any disclosures you made as far as your occasional drug use.
 
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,

The right of the non-convict, non-fugitive, non-toking, snorting or booze-swilling, non-loony, non-alien, honorable, non-harassing, non-stalking, non-wife-beating citizens to keep and bear some arms shall not be infringed too very much.

Or something.
 
The right of the non-convict, non-fugitive, non-toking, snorting or booze-swilling, non-loony, non-alien, honorable, non-harassing, non-stalking, non-wife-beating citizens to keep and bear some arms shall not be infringed too very much.

For the time being, anyway.
 
(4) Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution

A lot of people really seem to have a hard time understanding this one.

"Adjudicated as a mental defective" means that a judge has banged a gavel and declared you to be mentally incompetent and not responsible for your own actions, not that you went to see a psychologist every week for six months after your mom passed away.

"Has been committed to a mental institution" means that people other than yourself, with court approval, put you in the spin bin. This does not mean that you spent three weeks in Club Med For The Messed Up In The Head on your own volition when your SAD came on with a vengeance right after you got laid off just before X-mas.


Sure, I think most of the GCA '68 restrictions are bogus, but it behooves one to understand what they are before raging at them. :scrutiny:
 
In response to Tamara's post, I'd say that the big difference here is that under the proposed law, one's entire HMO file will become part of the govt. database, not just a binary entry on the 4473 box "have you been judged mentally defective?" As such, it provides a treasure trove of data for govt. operatives with a mission.

Here's the potential for abuse:

Every time a gun crime is committed, the govt will backtrack through the suspect's medical records...and will then compile/publish statistics indicating that x% of mass murderers had prescribed psychotropic drugs, sought marital counseling, had major surgery, etc., prior to committing the crime. We now have hard statistics that these indicators are precursors to crime (not necessarily causative factors but who cares). Chuck Schumer proposes that these indicators be added to the list of 4473 things that prevent you from buying a gun.

Diane Feinstein notices that some criminals haven't bought a gun (at gunstores) recently, so she proposes that the system be expanded...now everyone's mental health can be profiled, and assigned a "score" based on scientific data (they already have the threat index software written for the CAPPSII program). And the govt. has a responsibilty to be "pro-active" to prevent needless carnage. The score will be used as a pretext to not only deny new purchases, but to confiscate guns from potentially unstable individuals. Much the same way that misdemeanor domestic violence, or restraining orders are now used to confiscate guns.

Other possibilities but I've got to go to work...
 
Actually...

My husband is a federal police officer - JBT ;) . According to him, anyone who has spent time in a mental institution, whether committed by others, or voluntarily falls into that category.
 
First, Schumer anything makes me want to :barf:

Anything that sounds like it's "For my own good" run the other way.. FAST!!

I spend my money taking newbies shooting, it's MUCH better for the 2nd amendment than paying NRA dues..
 
Tamara:
"Has been committed to a mental institution" means that people other than yourself, with court approval, put you in the spin bin. [bold emphasis added by me]
Correct. It does mean that. And judges have "committed" innocent people on numerous occasions. Too many to mention. More every day.

Waco happend with "court approval". So did Ruby Ridge. So do thousands of unconstitutional arrests and convictions, every day.

Are you suggesting that "court approval" of firearms prohibitions against innocent people legitimizes them? If so, how does that square with "shall not be infringed"?
A lot of people really seem to have a hard time understanding this one.
Indeed.
 
Tempest:
According to him, anyone who has spent time in a mental institution, whether committed by others, or voluntarily falls into that category.
Incorrect. BATF regulations say "The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution."

They could change those regulations, as they often do, of course.

The real problem is the one Tamara doesn't understand but should. See above.
 
Tank,

Are you suggesting that "court approval" of firearms prohibitions against innocent people legitimizes them? If so, how does that square with "shall not be infringed"?

You apparently don't know me very well...

I think anyone who is not dead or currently serving time should be able to purchase a firearm: over the counter, through the mail, whatever. I was merely responding to the incorrect interpretations of a particular regulation.
 
Hey Tempest; I dunno if your right or wrong; But as a guy with a degree in Criminal justice, I can truthfully say, you would be VERY suprised to learn how many police officers/federal agents do Not know the law. Many attorneys do NOT know the law......Big grain of salt ...Kay?:)
 
hammer4nc,

In response to Tamara's post, I'd say that the big difference here is that under the proposed law, one's entire HMO file will become part of the govt. database, not just a binary entry on the 4473 box "have you been judged mentally defective?" As such, it provides a treasure trove of data for govt. operatives with a mission.

Bingo.

If anything, that's almost a formula for every dumb, intrusive and ultimately perverted piece of legislation to come down the pike in living memory. "In order for us to better combat bad guys who _______, we need access to every citizen's _______." Fill in the blanks with whatever your nightmares can conjure up... :uhoh:
 
Tamara:
I think anyone who is not dead or currently serving time should be able to purchase a firearm: over the counter, through the mail, whatever. I was merely responding to the incorrect interpretations of a particular regulation.
My bad. My apologies for misinterpreting your statements. Please forgive my error.

And you are right about your position. Makes no sense at all that millions of people are banned from self-defense. It's crazy.
 
Hey Tempest; I dunno if your right or wrong; But as a guy with a degree in Criminal justice, I can truthfully say, you would be VERY suprised to learn how many police officers/federal agents do Not know the law. Many attorneys do NOT know the law......Big grain of salt ...Kay?
I take anything with a big grain of salt. LOL He specifically mentioned this, however, because he just got out of FLETC last year, and that's what they were spouting. It's entirely possible that the actual law and how they want their cops to behave re: the situation are two different things, however. That would piss me off even further!!! :cuss:
 
Tempest; Oh yes..I have a bit too much personal experiance here for my liking. As a rule of thumb, Agents/Officers follow Policy first, and the Law Second. They are Employee's after all, and their employers will cover them when they stay within policy, even if it doe'snt follow the Law. Stray outside the Policy and your on your own!:cuss: :barf:
 
I'd say that the big difference here is that under the proposed law, one's entire HMO file will become part of the govt. database, not just a binary entry on the 4473 box "have you been judged mentally defective?" As such, it provides a treasure trove of data for govt. operatives with a mission.

Hell, I don't see what we have to worry about. The govt. is run by fine, upstanding, moral, ethical, very well intentioned people who would NEVER
misuse such information :evil:

Seriously thou, as much as the firearms aspect of this bothers me, the collection of medical data bothers me even more. And that's quite a lot.
 
I know someone who was sent to 'crazy court' where a judges OPINION was all that stood between a life as a citizen and a life as a 'crazy person' who could be incarcerated, oops I mean, sent to a mental health facility, FOREVER. Luckily he convinced the judge that no he wasn't crazy, just a little weird.
And if they make weirdness a crime, lord help us :)

atek3
 
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