Another rattle snake encounter!
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Rattlesnakes, cottonmouths and other venomous snakes usually get dispatched. It's not worth the chance of someone or someone's dog getting bit, loosing their life or limb. The good snakes are left alone.
EmbarkChief
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Last year while hanging out enjoying a late night Cigar and Single Malt we were rudely interrupted by these two yokels. Fortunately my .22 Browning SA was close at hand and I didn't have to use my 1911. Nothing like shooting by the light of a Coleman Lantern.
rcmodel
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No, they are not on the endangered or the threatened species list.
Here is the official list of what is.
http://kdwpt.state.ks.us/Services/T...s-Threatened-and-Endangered-Species-Statewide
rc
Fella's;
I've had to render first aid for a serious poisonous snake bite. The snake injected poison into my fellow recreationist, ipso-facto, it's poisonous. This was out in the back of the beyond in Wyoming. I've got no time for poisonous snakes whatsoever.
900F
I've had to render first aid for a serious poisonous snake bite. The snake injected poison into my fellow recreationist, ipso-facto, it's poisonous. This was out in the back of the beyond in Wyoming. I've got no time for poisonous snakes whatsoever.
900F
http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/lawrenceks/know-your-kansas-snakes. This was my source RC but i will stand corrected since you have the official Kansas web page, this site list the timber rattler as protected. About six slides to the right, top left corner of the page.
rcmodel
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+1
I grew up with rattlesnakes in south eastern Kansas.
They bit our dogs, they bit our milk cows udders, and they bit my dad on the hand while cleaning out a plow balled up with wheat stubble.
An old neighbor man got bit on the back of the leg getting out of bed one morning, and almost lost his leg.
I have hauled them home & stacked the hay bales in barns with a rattlesnake sticking out of the hay bales without knowing it.
Then almost got bite on the face walking through the hay barn with two feed buckets later in the day.
The outcome of a rattlesnake bite on anything is not good!
IMO: The only good rattlesnake is a dead rattlesnake!
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gamestalker
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Well, first of all, we live in a rural area, we have tons of them, all different species, the most common one's we encounter are Mojave greens, Diamond backs, and sidewinders. we also see a good number of coral snakes on and around our property. And our grand children have come close to getting bitten on more than one occasion, not to mention myself, my wife, and others. So no, we don't do the relocation thing, we send them to their maker real quick and in a hurry.
I have absolutely no problem killing a rattle snake. I have numerous friends that have been bitten and let me tell you, it is no walk in the park. I have a buddy who nearly lost his arm, another almost lost his leg, and one fellow got bit on his face, he has permanent paralysis on one side of his face, and is blind in one eye. I have no problem with those that prefer to relocate them, but if they find their way to my property or cross my path, they have then made a fatal mistake.
And yes, she made hamburger out of it.
GS
I have absolutely no problem killing a rattle snake. I have numerous friends that have been bitten and let me tell you, it is no walk in the park. I have a buddy who nearly lost his arm, another almost lost his leg, and one fellow got bit on his face, he has permanent paralysis on one side of his face, and is blind in one eye. I have no problem with those that prefer to relocate them, but if they find their way to my property or cross my path, they have then made a fatal mistake.
And yes, she made hamburger out of it.
GS
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Any snake I see on my property dies....
medalguy
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EmbarkChief, nice shooting. 
I trust those went into a nice hatband?
We have western diamondbacks around here. I have killed several nearly every year around the house and I don't regret any of them. The largest measured about 54 inches, and the smallest about 14 inches. That puppy we found when we stepped out of the car one Sunday morning after church and he was laying in the sun right where my wife was going to put her foot. Needless to say he became buzzard bait real fast.
My daughter was bit on the ankle by a copperhead a good many years ago and she spent about 2 months in the hospital and at home in bed, then another 2 months on crutches. I have no love for poisonous reptiles around the house.
I trust those went into a nice hatband?We have western diamondbacks around here. I have killed several nearly every year around the house and I don't regret any of them. The largest measured about 54 inches, and the smallest about 14 inches. That puppy we found when we stepped out of the car one Sunday morning after church and he was laying in the sun right where my wife was going to put her foot. Needless to say he became buzzard bait real fast.
My daughter was bit on the ankle by a copperhead a good many years ago and she spent about 2 months in the hospital and at home in bed, then another 2 months on crutches. I have no love for poisonous reptiles around the house.
RetiredUSNChief
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Not quite.
3 CSR 10-4.110 General Prohibition; Applications
PURPOSE: This rule prohibits the pursuit, taking, possession, or any use of wildlife except as provided in the Code.
In general, this means it is illegal to kill wildlife that isn't specifically delineated as permissible to hunt by Missouri law, and this does, indeed, include snakes.
However, there's another code in effect which says:
3 CSR 10-4.130 Owner May Protect Property; Public Safety
PURPOSE: This rule establishes provisions for capturing or killing wildlife that is damaging private property to prevent further damage.
Protection of property includes livestock and other domesticated animals. Public safety is...well, public safety.
http://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3c10-4.pdf
And from the Missouri Department of Conservation website:
Few Missourians realize that all snakes native to our state are protected. The Wildlife Code of Missouri treats snakes, lizards, and most turtles as nongame. This means that there is no open season on these animals, and it is technically unlawful to kill them. There is a realistic exception, however: when a venomous snake is in close association with people, which could result in someone being bitten. We hope that more people realize that snakes are interesting, valuable, and, for the most part, harmless.
http://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/common-plants-and-animals/amphibians-and-reptiles/snakes
Personally, I'm of the "leave 'em alone" crowd...except where venomous snakes are involved around people and property. They can have the wilderness in general...but home and hearth is mine.
blarby
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Gamestalker, you have serious "luck" with firearms encounters.
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I think of all the folks on this forum that should carry 24/7/365, you are right at the top of the list... regardless of what the bus lady says.
Glad she got 'em ok (the rattler, not the bus lady). I think that advice on the "dust" shot repacking of a 12 gauge shell is a great idea.
Ever have any luck on your 44 shotshells without the little plastic "wad" ? I still have a pile of those little wad/cups that you fill with shot if you want 'em, as i'm certain you will "need" them more than I ever will !
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I think of all the folks on this forum that should carry 24/7/365, you are right at the top of the list... regardless of what the bus lady says.
Glad she got 'em ok (the rattler, not the bus lady). I think that advice on the "dust" shot repacking of a 12 gauge shell is a great idea.
Ever have any luck on your 44 shotshells without the little plastic "wad" ? I still have a pile of those little wad/cups that you fill with shot if you want 'em, as i'm certain you will "need" them more than I ever will !
MtnCreek
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EmbarkChief,
Did you bust up some snake romancing? A few years ago I busted up some copperhead love. What! A snake with two heads?
Did you bust up some snake romancing?
A few years ago I busted up some copperhead love. What! A snake with two heads? 
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I don't generally like to kill animals, but when i do, I make sure they're snakes...
Seriously, I do not enjoy killing God's creatures, feeling they all serve a purpose,
but the kill radar in me just goes haywire when I see a snake. I killed a little itty bitty snake with a 9mm a few months back. Right out the back door of our building at work. Braced myself against the open door's frame, and BOOM, let one fly. Got him (about 3' away), but I had gotten so caught up in the goings on, I forgot ear protection. Ouch. My wife's uncle lectured us on why I had to kill it.
Seriously, I do not enjoy killing God's creatures, feeling they all serve a purpose,
but the kill radar in me just goes haywire when I see a snake. I killed a little itty bitty snake with a 9mm a few months back. Right out the back door of our building at work. Braced myself against the open door's frame, and BOOM, let one fly. Got him (about 3' away), but I had gotten so caught up in the goings on, I forgot ear protection. Ouch. My wife's uncle lectured us on why I had to kill it.
I don't kill them. They scoot along when I encourage them to. It's ridiculous to think me killing a snake... venomous or otherwise... is of any benefit to me or my animals. If my dog trots out to relieve himself and finds a snake it will already be too late. The snake I killed yesterday won't help him today.
shooter1
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There's a shortage?
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RetiredUSNChief
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Well...unless killing that snake yesterday kept him from biting your dog today.
To me, killing a snake is about the threat level. If it's not venomous, then there's no reason (unless it's an invasive species or something). If it's venomous, then the question which must be addressed is what threat level it poses based on the circumstances. Running across a venomous snake in my own yard, frequented by my children and other members of the family, is a whole different story than finding one in the middle of the woods while squirrel hunting or something.
The statistical likelihood of that is incredibly remote. Snakes may transition a yard, but it isn't their habitat. They don't hang out there.
People make up a lot of excuses to kill snakes, but they're just that... excuses.
tardevil it is not an excuse. it is superstition and fear and we all
know that comes from a lack of education.
how many birds can you name sitting and watching?
but my neighbor across the street freaked out the other day
when I showed him a snake, 9-10 inches long, from a 150 feet
away.
know that comes from a lack of education.
how many birds can you name sitting and watching?
but my neighbor across the street freaked out the other day
when I showed him a snake, 9-10 inches long, from a 150 feet
away.
blarby
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Hmmm
I'm sorry. I get frustrated. I know that it's a basic innate fear in humans. And you are right, if folks would take just a bit of time to educate themselves about snakes they would be far less prone to slaughter everything that slithers on the ground.
I've seen a den literally full of rattlers scatter from a video camera. Every single one of those snakes had one objective - getting away, and not one reptile made a single strike at the camera lens or the guy holding it. It is not their goal in life to maim and hurt people... they just wanna eat and have babies.
Same with snakes wandering through my yard, copperheads or rat snakes. Prod them with a stick and they'll scoot along quickly to something more endearing, like a wood or leaf pile.
EmbarkChief
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If I had seen those two Rattlers out in the pasture away from the house I would have let them be...
However, crawling up onto the porch where 4 people and a 7 month old baby are residing will earn you a hole in the head around my place. Every time.
No excuses needed.
However, crawling up onto the porch where 4 people and a 7 month old baby are residing will earn you a hole in the head around my place. Every time.
No excuses needed.
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