Another Sterotype Falls Victim To Girls :-)

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One is a .22 CZ upper, the other a .223. Both had barrels turned down to the original M16 weights. The girls are quite safe. Both are very mature for their age, I'd have no reservations about letting them loose in my home. Both show natural graciousness, in addition to the learned politeness. when I gave one of them a chocolate bar, the first words were: "We can share this." I also gave one of them a 30rd box of IMI .223 ball and had to modify the label "Keep out of reach of children." It now reads Keep out of reach of ordinary children.
 
crazed_ss said:
Are those real ARs?
If so, I really hope those children respect the power if them and dont see them as colorful toys.
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Are you on the right website? I'd be sadly disappointed to learn that those were NOT real guns.


I'd be willing to bet both of them are well instructed and well supervised and probably as "gun safe" as you can make a kid.

You can't be so naive as to think that the color of a gun makes it any more or less a gun.
 
crazed_ss said:
Why do you ask? Are we all required to have the same opinions on everything on this site?
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Crazed_ss,

No problem. A lot of folks are familiar with Michaela's shooting experience and Morrigan's. They're just a bit ahead of you with knowing something about both girls.

Michaela has grown up around guns and knows exactly what they can and can't do (can KILL/DESTROY, can't do it without someone touching it). She's been quoting firearms rules (at a $.10 a pop) for a while and will spontaneously go through them without any prompting. She's safer with firearms than most adults (possibly safer than most of the adults on this site). She understands death and grief and would not want herself and her rifle to be responsible for either. She has never played with toy guns and has never viewed them as toys. Rest assured she understands the power of her rifle and doesn't mistake it for anything else. As to the color, not everything has to be basic black.;)
 
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hso said:
Crazed_ss,

No problem. A lot of folks are familiar with Michaela's shooting experience and Morrigan's. They're just a bit ahead of you with knowing something about both girls.
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and last i saw, Morrigan can outshoot our beloved infantry herself. well, at least one of them. :evil:

that was really quite funny, to see all those grown men wince cause she was shooting so well, and they... weren't, quite. ;)

-bs
 
I did notice. You and hso have great kids. I'd sooner have Morrigan and Michaela loitering around my home with holstered sidearms than many chronologically adult people. Both show remarkable consideration for other people and respect for the property and privacy of others.

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Kudos

madmike said:
I don't know if Oleg noticed while setting up, but the first thing Morrigan did was clear both weapons and ground them pointing downrange.

We've almost got the little brother trained, too.
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There is a major one thing you and the girls have - that is a definite leg up on the V-POTUS with regard to safety procedures. http://www.wtkr.com/Global/story.asp?S=4490981

Well done, sir and ladies.

-AndyB
 
Call me crazy, but I really don't like those rifles.

They look too much like toys.

I can't think of a real reason to be skeezed by that fact, but, I am, nonetheless.
 
I forget where I saw it, but there was a pic of a secretary with an AR-15 that was ALL pink. The way I see it, females can accessorize with just about anything. Why not run an ad campaign of "Pretty and Pretty Functional"?

Insofar as safety, I hold the opinion that if Oleg feels safe, that's good enough for me.

My g/f's daughter wants my Hi-Point. If I had it painted a bright green, she'd go out of her mind to get one. Unfortunately, I don't feel she's quite ready. My daughter, on the other hand, is ready, but not really into shooting. She likes plinking if she has to accompany us to the range, but if given the choice, she'd stay home and watch "That's So Stupid"... I mean "Raven"... :D
 
I love the fact that her finger is off the trigger in the 2nd pic. She has more trigger dicipline than about 99% of our soldiers..

Pink is for girls..
 
I'd rename the thread "Another Sterotype Falls Victim To Girls" just to turn sterotyping on it's head!
 
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Women are the only growing segement in the shooting sports. Back in 1999, Guns Magazine reported a Roper poll found that 47 million women would accept an invitation to go target shooting if invited. That's just a couple more than the Million Mom March can claim! But I wonder if that number is greater or smaller today? If you want to keep the sport alive and "disarm" those afraid of guns make an effort to get your daughters into shooting! Do whatever it takes to help them get interested (like dropping a wad of cash for a custom paint job in "her" colors).

Besides, if you can't get your male child off the couch and away from the TV/Gameboy, don't give up. You've probably got a better shooting buddy in your daughter anyway!

That is, if you're "man" enough to ask.

http://www.heritageshooting.org/hsi/events/nssc4w.php
http://www.alphecca.com/mt_alphecca_archives/002024.html
http://www.nrahq.org/women/
http://www.state.tn.us/twra/bowprogram.html
 
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I've a simple fix for the "looks like toys" opinions...simply don't have toy guns around-ever. Then everything that looks like a gun IS a gun. I've been around hso, family, and associates. Just from knowing hso, I'd assume his children were well trained in safety issues both regarding firearms and in general.
 
You know, I am wondering if we are going to be needing a new forum for teaching kids on how to treat guns. I would very much like to know what some of you (like madmike) has done to train the younger children so well.

When (and if) I get kids, I hope they are as good around them.
 
Byron Quick said:
I've a simple fix for the "looks like toys" opinions...simply don't have toy guns around-ever.
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Byron's correct, we've never had a remotely realistic looking toy gun around Michaela. This is the same approach I took 20 years ago with her older brother. Neither one of them are afraid of guns (JT has my 870 riot gun and bought his on handgun the week he turned 21. Anyone can see Michaela doesn't have a problem with firearms) and neither played at guns. Water guns were all exotic Buck Rogers-esque soakers, air rifles were treated as real guns (anything that can rupture an eye is a "real" gun), rubber band guns looked nothing like anything that shoots bullets. They didn't 'miss' a thing and both were allowed to shoot real guns at the earliest age they were interested. They both watched me and our friends shoot recreationally, knew what a gun was and what it could do and were allowed to participate as a privilege of demonstrating responsible and mature behavior with respect to firearms (within the limits of their age).

And it probably doesn't hurt (er, help:scrutiny: ) that I'm a health and safety professional who fixates on doing things safely.
 
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