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Im not a political person truthfully and have little understanding to all the issues going on with firearms in politics and was wondering if some of you can help me with some questions i have

1.When the powers that be try to put in effect another AWB what should i do to try and stop it?
How likely is it to go through?
And how effective is my voice when i do write my congressman? Also what should i say because i dont want to sound like some crazy person

2.Obama just passed the lawful carry in national parks if he were an anti gun President why would he do this? and why couldnt we carry there before (all state laws applying of course)

3.With the parks law passed ive heard talks of a campas carry law being thrown around is this true and if so how do i go about supporting it?

4.Lastly i have noticed friends of mine that have seemingly gone over the edge with the paranoia i have one friend that has decided to completely stop shooting because he wishes to conserve ammo in fear of AWBs and the downfall of the world i guess i like shooting too much to do something that drastic but how do i keep myself from losing sleep at night once i get involved

i am fairly new to shooting and i absolutly LOVE the sport of it and i want to become more active in helping preserve our 2nd A rights i honestly feel that another AWB would be rediculous seeing as how many "assault" weapons are used for ALOT more things than assaulting mostly in shooting matches
 
You can start by writing letters to you elected representitves now, telling them that they will lose your vote forever the first time they vote pro gun control.

You can join a local, state or national RKBA orginization and encourage your friends to do so

You can join a local OC activist group.

You can send Rosie O'donnel hate mail.

There are any number of things you could do
 
Obama just passed the lawful carry in national parks if he were an anti gun President why would he do this?
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Obama signed a credit card reform bill. It just happened that the National Park addon was attached.

Do not confuse this with being pro gun.

With the parks law passed ive heard talks of a campas carry law being thrown around is this true and if so how do i go about supporting it?
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That is state by state. Some states allow carry on schools already. That's not a Federal thing at all. The Federal Gun Free School Zone laws have nothing to do with legal carry.
 
thanks for clearing the state parks thing up this is what i mean about being out of the loop ive never followed any type of politics before other than voting for president and local officials ive never done anything poilitical either and now things are so complicated i dont know where to start
 
4.Lastly i have noticed friends of mine that have seemingly gone over the edge with the paranoia i have one friend that has decided to completely stop shooting because he wishes to conserve ammo in fear of AWBs and the downfall of the world i guess i like shooting too much to do something that drastic but how do i keep myself from losing sleep at night once i get involved
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You recognize the situation so you are less likely to fall victim to it. ;)
 
1. JOIN THE NRA. Despite the opinions of many in here, no other organization does more to protect your rights. Join others as well, but START with the NRA. Make absolutely certain of the position of ALL of your state's representatives, and BABYSIT the ones that are iffy. Utah has one democratic rep, and I have repeatedly let him know that the only thing keeping him in office is his pro-RKBA positions, and that if he deviates, he will lose. I have had dozens of my pro-gun friends do the same. The other reps, I don't baby-sit, but I have made clear that this is the reason I support them. I have had face-to-face conversations with three of them. Email ALL of your representatives on every issue relating to the topic, giving them either praise or criticism, make SURE they KNOW how serious you are.

2. I could speak at length as to why he would sign it, being anti-gun. The long and short of it is, he doesn't take his anti-gun position as seriously as I take my pro-gun position. He is willing to compromise this issue for other political goals. I'm not. (His REAL problem is, he has promised so many contradictory things to so many parties, he is going to break a lot of hearts no matter WHAT he does.) I really think that he will try to use it as a bargaining chip in the future, something to the effect of; "Look, I gave you a little with allowing carry in national parks, now you can give ME a little in an astronomical tax on ammunition, since it is really just COMMON SENSE."

3. This varies from state to state. Utah never banned campus carry. From what I have read in here, it sounds like Texas is about to allow it. This is good, in that it shows it is possible to overturn the status quo, and change people's minds. The flat truth is, there has never been some magical reason that campuses have less of a threat to your personal safety than any other place, this law is just recognizing that. Google and find some shooting organizations in your state that support it. Look on facebook for related fan clubs.

4. His hoarding ammo isn't going to do him much good if his shooting skills have deteriorated from lack of practice to the point that he cant use it effectively anymore. Having said that, I am in the same position, I don't have much practice ammo left. BUT, I believe that this shortage will end soon, and when it does, I have no intention of placing storage over practice in priority.
 
Absolutely join the NRA asap!

You'll read and hear some folks whine about the organization but consider this:

1. The NRA is a household name.
If you went to the supermarket and asked people at random who the NRA was, everyone you asked would know.
The NRA is a household name. That is priceless. You cannot buy that.

2. The NRA is huge.
A huge, mediocre gun rights org is 100 times as powerful as a tiny, perfect organization that nobody has heard of.
Quantity is a form of quality.

3. The NRA membership fee is nominal.
It's a whopping $2.90 a month. Less than the mocha frappachino you might buy at Starbucks.
And you get a nice magazine, pretty much as good as any other gun rag.
If you don't like additional mailings, an email or phone call can stop them.

4. The NRA is rabidly pro-gun.
Anyone who says they are anything but rabid, mad dog pro-gun is talking out his rear-end.
But you have to remember: they are playing a political game in the public eye. That means sound bites and little slogans. And playing pattycake with rinkydink politicians.
That's the reality.

5. The Brits did not join the british NRA.
British gun owners did not want to seem "extreme" so they failed to organize. The british NRA was small and weak.
So they lost everything.

You need a big, powerful gun rights organization or you lose everything.

End of story.
 
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There seems to be a lot more anti-gun gun owners now than about 2 years ago. There's another thread in which some gun owners have about 20 reasons not to open carry, ever. They are now gun owners but can't stand the sight of guns in public. They're anti-gun but don't realize it. I'd hate to have them on my jury. Those folks would be way worse than a regular anti-gun person.
 
Wait, what? So if I don't open carry then I'm anti-gun?

I'm not sure what scenario you're referring to when you speak of a jury, but in my opinion once someone starts to commit armed robbery they have flat out given up their right to life. Someone could snipe them from a mile away and it'd be justified. I'm against shooting someone who is merely committing larceny, but once it's armed robbery, I wouldn't even rule against you for shooting them in the back.
 
Obama signed a credit card reform bill. It just happened that the National Park addon was attached.

Do not confuse this with being pro gun.
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Yeah. 's a damn shame both points were considered separately, and not as ONE bill. But wait. Lemme guess. He pretended to be in favor of this movement just to trick us into thinking he's not trying to take all the guns and ammunition, and use them for his private military force which will wage an unholy civil war on all of America.
Except Texas. Because they think they're better. Right?
 
Yeah. 's a damn shame both points were considered separately, and not as ONE bill. But wait. Lemme guess. He pretended to be in favor of this movement just to trick us into thinking he's not trying to take all the guns and ammunition, and use them for his private military force which will wage an unholy civil war on all of America.
Except Texas. Because they think they're better. Right?
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No, they were not. This was one single piece of legislation.

The Senate voted on the bill with one vote, for both the credit card reform and the National Park carry amendment.

The House voted on them separately, but not to disconnect the 2 pieces. They were joined back together as a single piece of legislation and sent to Obama for signature.

The President did NOT sign 2 separate pieces of paper for this. He signed a credit card reform bill only, one item in the many things it does is allows for carry of firearms in National Parks.

The text of the House version is here, HR627:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-627

Section 512 is the National Park add on, it is not separate legislation.

From ABC News:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/05/obama-signs-cre.html

At the Rose Garden ceremony, Obama did not mention one controversial element of the bill – an amendment that gave states the power to allow loaded concealed weapons in national parks and shelve a long-standing National Park Service rule against weapons.
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Wait, what? So if I don't open carry then I'm anti-gun?

I'm not sure what scenario you're referring to when you speak of a jury, but in my opinion once someone starts to commit armed robbery they have flat out given up their right to life. Someone could snipe them from a mile away and it'd be justified. I'm against shooting someone who is merely committing larceny, but once it's armed robbery, I wouldn't even rule against you for shooting them in the back.
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You're anti-gun if you have many reasons NOT to open carry while you can't buy any reason to open carry. It's even worse if you're a gun owner and think this way. These are the same people who I absolutely would not want on my jury if I ever happen to be on trial for rightfully shooting someone or rightfully carrying open. I'd rather have a plain anti-gun person who's ignorant rather than an anti-gun gun owner who's there to "educate" the other jurors.
 
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You're anti-gun if you have many reasons NOT to open carry while you can't buy any reason to open carry. It's even worse if you're a gun owner and think this way. These are the same people who I absolutely would not want on my jury if I ever happen to be on trial for rightfully shooting someone or rightfully carrying open. I'd rather have a plain anti-gun person who's ignorant rather than an anti-gun gun owner who's there to "educate" the other jurors.
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Ahhh, I kinda see what you're getting at. Personally, I've only open carried in the woods while hiking and such, but I've certainly got no problem with other people OCing in the city or whereever; I'm happy to benefit from the deterrent to violent crime.

I don't think I'd ever end up on a jury. I'm too much of a "crazy right wing extremist" :evil:
 
I'm sure Obama did not sign any law expanding our gun rights in National Parks.

The NRA told me he has a ten-point plan to take all my guns away, and nobody that anti-gun would tolerate a bill with a pro-gun provision.

Who are you gonna believe, the drive-by media or the NRA?
 
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