Anti-Gun rights Police Chief Has her Gun Stolen

[divemedic]

Political beliefs aside, this is a Chief of Police that was targetted by a criminal because she is a COP. She has 25 years of service in the State that I live in. She did not break any policies, attempt to cover up the crime where she was a victim, and submitted herself to Internal Affairs disciplinary action.

Again: either she or her husband did violate either policy or state law, unless her husband kept the weapon on his person for the entire time the children were in the house. If he did not, he violated state law by allowing children to have access to a weapon, or he violated OCSO policy by leaving a weapon in his car.

She claims she stored the weapon in her vehicle, as allowed by OPD regulations. Her husband, who is the Orange County Sheriff, could not have done so, as OCSO's policy prohibits weapon storage in vehicles. That policy went into effect a couple of years ago, after the OCSO had dozens of weapons stolen from unattended vehicles, including a suppressed MP-5, a few rifles, and an M-4 belonging to the SWAT team.

 

[Bill2e]

Political beliefs aside, this is a Chief of Police that was targetted by a criminal because she is a COP. She has 25 years of service in the State that I live in. She did not break any policies, attempt to cover up the crime where she was a victim, and submitted herself to Internal Affairs disciplinary action. The attitude that "she is a gun grabber haha her gun got stolen irony!" because she thinks differently than you is pretty despicable and surprising.

She was a victom, Sorry she was irresponsable for not using a safe to secure her weapon.

look at her comments on guns, Assult weapons & 2nd amendment rights before you question my character.

Sorry I do not measure up to your standards. I still find it Ironic. I aslo said I hope the catch the CRIMINAL that stole it. There are alot of car burglaries in Orlando and the surranding area. Leaving a gun in you car is not a good idea.

 

[Lucky]

I know the police usually don't, seldom ever, side with civilian gun owners. And in the past when we've sided with them it's not been repaid. But still, they're gun owners and if they do no wrong they bear no fault. Even if she personally spearheads the campaign to kick in doors and confiscate guns, you have to support her fundamental rights. Ok maybe not if she's Goering's 2nd, but almost otherwise.

 

[TAB]

Out side of leaving a gun in her car( which is a bad idea for any one)

She did every thing she was supose to. She fallowed policy, reported it and submitted herself to IAD.

She has my respect for doing that. She could have made it go away if she wanted too, but she had the integrity to do the right thing.

 

[gripper]

One one hand,your car -like your home-is YOUR castle(or at least an extension of it by my lights(I say the same about any space I occupy at the momemt,so who knows?)
OTOH;I DO find the irony delicious....now if only we could educate this lady as to the difference between a right and a priviliege.If she is so anti,she did not HAVE to enter a law enforcement careelr(where presumably she would encounter firearms).Ye she CHOSE to seek employment in the field(as IS her right-if she can make the standard-so be it.Yet she would remove that same choice/right from you or me based on the fact that us mere "civilians)I HATE when cops refer to us as that ;neither one of us is still in the military!)therefore are assumed to be LESS competent/confident in our abilities(Iused to regularly out-shoot quite a few LEOs where I used to live in Ma.,and occasionally put the firghteners on them at a boxing/martial arts focused gym).

 

[divemedic]

She fallowed policy, reported it and submitted herself to IAD...She could have made it go away if she wanted too, but she had the integrity to do the right thing.

She tried. the gun has been missing for weeks. It only became public because of a whistle blower.

 

[GLOOB]

She shouldn't be held to a higher standard because she's a police chief. She should be held to a higher standard because she's a gun owner.

If someone took a gun from my car because I forgot to lock it, I'd probably lose my CCW or worse. If a minor got access to it and committed a crime, I could be charged with a felony in my state.

Store a gun in an non-garaged car??? Ludicrous. Locked or unlocked, policy or no. Yeah, it's your castle, but it's a castle that can be "gone in 60 seconds." Your comprehensive auto insurance can't really begin to cover the fact that a felon now has your gun.

 

[TAB]

She tried. the gun has been missing for weeks. It only became public because of a whistle blower.

was it required by law or policy to make that info public?

 

[Lucky]

She broke no law nor policy.

Do you want to expand your freedoms, or contract them. Cars are property.

Property rights are rights.

If you come down on her for hers, and she's the top cop, imagine what will come down on you for yours.

I think if ever there was a time to write supportive emails, this be it. You write her supportive emails from the 'gun community', she just might remember it, and might pass her favourable opinion on to other top LEOs, and so-on.

Or you could all bitch on the internet, placate your egos, and come out none ahead.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

She broke no law nor policy.

She wrote or approved the policy -- which is an irresponsible policy. And the proof of that is, her gun was stolen.

Do you want to expand your freedoms, or contract them. Cars are property.

Property rights are rights.

If your house catches fire, don't call the fire department, just stay there while it burns down around you.

Property rights are rights.

 

[TAB]

I'd bet that a very large chunk of the LEA in the US have the same policy.

 

[wyocarp]

Man, you guys are being very rough on the gal. I'll bet I wouldn't like her if I met her, I don't like looking at her, but I only see that she did one thing wrong.

And the clue is:

Deputies examined Deming's car and "did not observe any forced entry."

Yep, she probably didn't lock her vehicle. I would slap her for that. If the car was locked, I would have no problem with what she did.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I'd bet that a very large chunk of the LEA in the US have the same policy.

I'd bet that a very large chunk of the people in the world once believed the world was flat. But that doesn't make it right.

Leaving a gun in a car is asking to get it stolen. Leaving it in a cop car is begging to get it stolen.

 

[wyocarp]

Leaving a gun in a car is asking to get it stolen.

Give me a break. That's crazy thinking.

Because I get out of my vehicle, is that inviting someone else to get in?

Because I leave guns at home, is that inviting someone to break in and steal them? What's the difference?

 

[TAB]

You know most cars only come with about 20 keys per year... its not uncommon to find your key will open some one elses door. About 5 years ago I had it happen on my street. Some one came down the street with key sets and opened about 90% of the cars and trucks on the street. the only reason I knew it happend was a LEO came to my door at 3ish asking if one of my cars was one that was broken into.

There are also slim jims and picks.

It could have very well been locked( but not likly, but it could have been)

 

[acdodd]

Same thing happened to the police chief in Seattle.
Never found his gun and now Obama has made him the Drug Czar.
AC

 

[divemedic]

1 Either her husband violated the law (no access for minors to firearms) OR
2 OCSO policy by leaving his weapon in the car AND
3 attempted to cover it up (FL sunshine/public records law)

BTW- The policy that SHE enacted as deputy chief was that weapons have to be locked in the trunk. In addition, due to the large number of police weapons thefts, every OPD car now has an expensive alarm system, which appears not to have been used in this case (even though that is also against policy).

News story from the Sentinel

Commentary from the locals about the Sentinel article

No evidence of a break in, at first she thought she left it at work, now she reports it stolen. Humm, starting to sound like Orlando's Top Cop LOST her gun. Now I see why she wanted to keep it a secret, not that it was stolen, but that she lost it. Just lost it, doesn't remember where it is, where she left it, just LOST it. WOW.

Yet, we common citizens are getting the blame when criminals get guns.

 

[mp510]

Might be a mega anti-freedom bitch, but she didn't do any wrong this time afaict.

She left a pistol unattended in a vehicle. She didn't even take care to stow it in the trunk where theft would have been more difficult. If she was a civilian permit holder here in Connecticut, I can guarantee you her permit would have been revoked and l doubt that it would have been reinstated.

 

[Brian Dale]

But I do find irony that the Anti gun Orlando police chief has her gun stolen from her car.

Some folks have taken issue with Bill's statement, but consider this: if she'd been a gunnie, she'd have taken better care of her pistol.

Here you go, Orlando Mayor Dyer:

"Chief, it doesn't matter whether you actively lost your pistol or left it where it could easily be stolen. You've demonstrated that your judgment is poor. You're fired. Have a nice day."

 

[rickomatic]

LOL...you think that's bad? Our Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske had his Glock stolen from his parked car a couple years ago.

Where is my gun?
Now...you may be thinking why that's so funny? This is the guy that "The One" just nominated for his new "Drug Czar".

New Drug Czar

Oh..and he's the guy who was walking lock step with Seattle's Mayor Quimby (Nickles) in his effort to illegally ban guns from city property in defiance of Washington State's preemption law.
Who said we had to follow state law?

 

[rikman]

That weapon belongs in a safe in the home, her excuse about visitors with small children is lame. Is it not potentially more dangerous now to children of Orlando with that weapon in the hands of a criminal in the streets?

 

[Jeff White]

I certainly hope that everyone in this thread posts their absolute outrage that the Texas Senate just passed a bill to allow people to store firearms in their vehicle in this thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=438265

I expect to see those posts when I check THR tomorrow. Oh and don't forget all the threads about car and truck guns.........You guys wouldn't want anyone to think you were were biased in any way now would you?

 

[jakemccoy]

She's anti-gun because she's the only one professional enough.

 

[LightningJoe]

The attitude that "she is a gun grabber haha her gun got stolen irony!" because she thinks differently than you is pretty despicable and surprising.

Too holy to perceive irony? Please.

 

[wyk]

To those who say she has intergrity in owning up to her mistakes, I do give her some credit for it.

No doubt we should not be harsher on her just because she is an anti. Afterall, your car is your property and one should have the right to place their property in there without fear of thieves. But all that said and done, department policy or not, she has shown little common sense and displayed gross negligence when having a firearm in her possession. Any reasonable gun owner should have a safe and secure place to keep their firearm away from unauthorized access and keeping a gun in a unattended and unlocked car hardly counts as a safe place to most reasonable people. Her failing to lock her car when she very well knows that there is a firearm inside is nothing short of gross negligence which has the potential of lawsuits against her and/or her Department, should something terrible happen.

Therefore, I do feel that she deserves some form of punishment or sanction (though not overly harsh) not because she is an anti but as a gun owner and a LEO who lost her service weapon due to negligence.