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Anti's having their way in Illinois

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TomJ, May 31, 2019.

  1. TomJ
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    With a super majority and their governor in place, the Dems are pushing through whatever they want. They've obviously given thought to an end around of the 2A, as they're succeeding in making gun ownership difficult and expensive here, and the people who most need protection, the poor on Chicago's South and West sides are going to have even a harder time affording the fees the state will charge for a FOID and CC permit. This is a preview of what they'd like to do nationally if given the chance.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...g-fingerprint-submission-fees-to-touch-a-gun/
     
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    It's coming....and will spread.
     
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    And yet Voter ID is racist...
     
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    Virginia's legislative elections are this fall, and the Democrats are within a seat or two of taking over both Houses. If they enact Gov. Northam's antigun agenda, gun owners in Virginia are going to be in real trouble.

    Unfortunately Republicans in Virginia have a habit of blowing their chances, by running extreme candidates. Hammering on immigration and abortion is going to end up killing gun rights.
     
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    Look for the same in Florida.
     
  6. TomJ
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    I thought for sure this would pass today, and am happy to say I was wrong. It's still in play, but we have a reprieve for now. From an ISRA e-mail:

    In Wednesday's House session, SB1966. , Kathleen Willis' infringing "Fix The FOID" bill, passed on a floor vote and went back to the Senate for concurrence on the three amendments.
    There was a Senate Judiciary Hearing yesterday but the bill was not called, the amendments were "held in committee".
    Today there was a Senate Judiciary Hearing without SB1966 being considered.
    The bill will remain held in this committee, and the spring legislative session will end at Midnight without passage of this bill in the Illinois Senate.
    Thank you for your efforts during this legislative session, your support was vital in halting this dangerous legislation.
    Your ISRA Lobbying Team was there fighting for you, and you did your part supporting the Second Amendment Rights of you and your fellow Illinois Gun Owners.
     
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    Just a symptom of a deeper rot and a lack of will to fight it.

    "Free" stuff is never free. There's always a price, almost always in human liberty, if not in human life.

    Those offering the most "free" stuff have big plans, plans which cannot be imposed upon a population capable of resisting with armed force. Hence the drive to create a governmental monopoly on the means of armed force.
     
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    "Having their way" is putting it mildly !
    State level licensing requirements for FFLs that duplicate Federal requirements, a "Job Tax" (that will COST jobs), recreational MJ that, because of Fed restrictions, will invalidate FOID & FCCL (CC license) permits, cutting the FOID from 10 years (where they put it about 10 years ago) back to 5 but with the $10 fee going to as much as $50, a "progressive" income tax, etc., etc., etc.
     
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    Yes I’m afraid it might be inevitable for us over the coming decade or so. Texas looks to be in even worse shape than Florida. But at least for the short term we have the following:

    - Florida State Senate: 23 R to 17 D

    - Florida State House: 71 R to 46 D

    - Florida Governor: Republican (we really got lucky there)

    - 7 out of 7 Florida Supreme Court justices everyone of which were appointed by Republicans.

    - 2 US senators representing us in Washington both of which are Republicans.

    At least for the time being we’re doing alright!

    Dan
     
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    Marco Rubio backs national red flagging and Rick Scott did sign, when governor knee jerk legislation.
     
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    Our next election will tell, which way Wis. will go, on 2a votes. If Evers' get the votes, we are done, as he is following the liberal playbook, to the letter. Tax, spend, expand govt. and public unions, Red flag laws, changing the CCW laws, all on his crosshairs.
     
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    Keep watching the shill EveryTown/MomsDemand crowd. Well funded by billionaire Bloomberg.
     
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    That's a classic "AstroTurf" organization -- an organization that pretends to be grass-roots, but in reality is an artificial entity created by moneyed interests.

    The gun rights organizations are the exact opposite -- organizations with a true grass-roots base, but whose leadership leeches off the top instead of contributing. (Maybe not all such organizations, but most.)
     
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    Political support/ “capital” always has limitations.

    People often believe that it is unlimited, and that when issues such as abortion are prioritized, the other issues will take care of themselves.

    Obama’s focus on a dramatic (his legacy) healthcare bill- -When he was elected- -wasn't clear to many people who panicked, believed gun shop profit/rumor$, went almost broke buying AR-15s.
    But apparently IL can pass gradual anti-2nd Amendment bills and Still Pass any major, different legislation without difficulty?
     
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    Supermajorities in house and Senate, demo billionaire Governor. Any darn thing they want.
     
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    This bill, for now, is dead.

    Too many increased tax legislations to worry about this now.
     
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    A bill in Illinois is never "dead". The Gun Dealer licensing bill was "dead", and should have been as it was passed by a legislature which had been disbanded after the election and was never reintroduced for vote but was brought up and signed by Pritzger. Not constitutional per my wife the constitution teacher but done any way. In Illinois, rule of law is out the window and rule of the vast majority is in. Never give up and never "hope for the best", prepare for the worst and don't trust anyone in power in Springfield (actually, Chicago).
     
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    Oh, I'm well aware. I did say "for now".

    I am looking to move out of IL. It is a dumpster fire.
     
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    The latest game they're playing is dragging their feet on CC renewals. MIne was submitted 128 days ago and it's still under review. We had planned on moving to Wisconsin in 6 years when my youngest finished high school. My ex and I discussed it and we're moving next summer. If we were able to do so in time for next school year my house would be up for sale now. As more people like us leave, the Dems increase their stronghold on the state and the more nonsense like this we'll see here.
     
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    It's worse than that. It's a toxic waste dump fire.
     
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    Deleted some pure political complaints.
     
  22. PapaG

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    I'm going back to work next week and the IL gun dealer licensing law is a new nightmare. Additional forms, digital recording, additional questionnaires, anytime auditing, employee additional training. I've been in and out of the business since dad and I had a shop in the sixties and it has gone to pot. Oops, that's another issue. My bet is that we will lose half the lgs in the next two years. Assuredly will if the Fix the FOID law goes through.
     
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    This is their goal.
     
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