Any comments on the R-15

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I'd buy an AR from an established AR company. Especially with an MSRP of $1145...you can pick up an LMT or a Colt for a few bills more.

Or if he isn't concerned with mil-spec this and that as seen in LMT and Colts you can get a nice set up for $1145 including mags, ammo, and an EOTech.
 
LOL, I already made a thread about this with alot of positive feed back. Basicaly it should be nice; get one if you are interested.
 
Looks great to me. AFAIK, it is going to be pretty much identical to a Bushmaster, but with a hunting-pattern camo finish.
 
+1 what CBS220 said. The company that owns Remington bought Bushmaster not too long back or vice versa.

If you wanna spend that much money, get an LMT or other better brand.

Dave
 
To me, the AR-15's strength is that it is modular. You can build up whatever you want in a varmint gun, or whatever, with a match-grade trigger and various other doohickeys like benchrest grips, bipods, etc.

I can see buying a top-quality, tested, complete AR from a top-tier builder like LMT and paying extra to do it.

But a Remington? WHY?

Remington builds half-assed guns, plain and simple. Whatever it once meant, the big green R means "half-assed and overpriced" to me at this point (Custom Shop guns may be nice, but hell, who can't make a decent rifle for a few grand?).

Remington's outlook seems to be build cheap, charge expensive. "Got a problem with the bolt lock safety? Don't fix it or use a 3-position safety, just take it off! We can still charge $800 for the basic model because we're Big Green!" Hell, why build a laminate Model 7 with iron sights for $600 when you can take off the sights, put it in a low-grade walnut stock, call it a CDL and charge $800? Seen the pictures of the new 105CTi semiauto shotgun in the Shotgun forum? $1400 and it seems they can't even put the pieces together straight.

Why would I pay good money for their R-branded AR, when I can have one made to order, or buy a varmint upper and build a match-grade lower for less, and I know and trust what goes into it?

"Remington" doesn't inspire confidence, to me.

That's my opinion, but that's all it is.:)
 
Armed Bear. What the christ. Remington is one of the best rifle makers. I think your just a little Peed off because your favortie company is not as good. Their Guns are accurate(most accurate I shot), great CS, and most of my guns are Remington. I think the R-15 would be a nice gun. Considering getting one here soon.
 
I think your just a little Peed off because your favortie company is not as good.
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LOL

Not being much of a fanboy, I don't have a favorite company. But if I did, I could find a better one.

Remington's bolt gun accuracy is pretty good, but there are equal or better rifles for less money, and they have a proper safety for real-world use.

Some Remington products have been utter junk, but most of them do work. Now and again, they hit on a world-beater. However, at their current price points, there's little reason to buy most of their products.

Now, if they have a gun that you specifically like, and you have to pay more than the competition, even if the competition's gun is objectively better or as good, hell, sometimes you just buy it. I'm considering a new hunting rifle, and I'm willing to pay more for a new 70 Featherweight than some other rifles that may shoot the same.

But this gun is hardly unique. Everyone's brother makes an AR. There's lots of competition. If I pay extra for one, I'll buy it from a company that has a better recent track record for putting guns together, or from one that won't charge so much for a commoditized product.

See, that is the question. Is it worth paying that price for that gun? I'm sure it will put bullets downrange. But will it do a better job than what you can buy for $800? Or as good a job as something else in its range? Or is it overpriced for what it is?

Given Remington's recent track record, I'm guessing it's the latter. Doesn't mean it won't shoot.
 
If I pay extra for one, I'll buy it from a company that has a better recent track record for putting guns together, or from one that won't charge so much for a commoditized product.
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Rem and Bushmaster both are owned by Cereberus Capital.

It's all marketing. Underneath it all it's a Bushmaster.
 
I don't think a camo finish is worth what Remington is asking. If I wanted a varmint gun, I'd go with a Stag 6. But if your buddy is one of those guys that buys camo everything (dog collars, coffee mugs, hats, sunglasses, toilet paper, etc.), sure go ahead.
 
If it's the only AR he'll consider, he needs it. Why? Another friend is always handy in the "us vs. the gun-grabbers" situation, politically--and when he sees they can ban one of his hunting weapons.....why not the others?

If he's already a "gun guy," and just wants an AR.....he can do better/the same for less. An AR is an AR is an AR, but all ARs are not made the same. I like my RRA middy 16", and it'll kill things just as dead as the R15, and I got it for about $300 less than what R15s are asking. And if I wanted a cheesy-looking camo pattern on my rifle, I can follow the trail of one of my less-than-awesome co-workers and just spraypaint it (which is NOT what I'd do, I'm just saying).
 
...and the midlength gas system has its own, genuine advantages that transcend the brand name on the box.:)
 
The price isn't that bad, most AR varmint setups run around $1000-1200. The only thing I don't liek about the 'Remington' model is that it comes with a cheesy 5 rd magazine. I suppose the 5rd magazine might be aimed at certain states that have a mag capacity limit for hunting.


I wouldn't buy it because its a Remington, I'd buy it because its a Bushmaster.;)
 
Its gas driven. I think it looks good. I hope they make one in 6.8 I would love to ammo cost come down. Word has it that they have 6.8 ready to go but I have not seen one yet.
 
he can do better/the same for less. An AR is an AR is an AR,
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Not really. They can be made as a very specialized rifle or a generalist rifle. You don't use a carbine for for shooting High Power and you don't use a varminter for shooting a CQB course. A standard 20" rifle can do all of those things, but not nearly as well as a purpose built rifle.
 
Not only is it a Bushmaster, it's specifically a Varminter with a camo paint job. I own a Varminter, and I can't tell a bit of difference between that and the R-15, or at least I couldn't last time I looked at one.
 
It is a specifically made AR. It's made for people who drink the green kool-aid, and defend it to the death regardless of facts. Most of the same people would buy Charmin rebadged to Remington if they sold it, and argue it was softer.
 
Balls... Predator. Thats what I meant. I don't know why I said Varminter. I really don't know why I said that since I OWN a Predator....
 
"...and the pistol grip design make it very comfortable to use in shooting sticks"
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From the Remington website... which I think is much better PR than, "aids in spray-firing from the hip".
 
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