Is This a Bad Assumption

[LoneRider]

For my first DMR project I intend to use the highly accurate Remington VTR (a rifle that won't break my budget) with the following modifications:

(Note: Link leads to original post about my DMR project's latest idea).


- Flip up Back Up Iron Sights
- Quick Detach Scope Rings (Pro Mag makes some good ones)
- Variable power Nikon telescopic sight.
- 2 point sling.

I was wondering if it's a bad assumption to figure that a varmint rifle which is intended for use in the field is a field rugged rifle.

 

[Reid73]

Don't have any answer to your question, but suggest that you may want to revise your signature line:

• you have a typo (it’s “our island”, not “out island”);
• you've inadvertantly omitted part of the quotation: “We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender …”;
• the speech (address to the House of Commons, June 4, 1940) was not delivered “on the eve of the Battle of Britain” but immediately following the Dunkirk evacuation. I suspect that you're thinking of the "This was their finest hour" speech of 18 June, 1940.

Sorry to be pedantic; but as it is one of the world's greatest speeches, I'm sure that you would want to get it right.

Good luck with your project.

 

[LoneRider]

Reid: Thanks for the correction. I heard this speech or an excerpt of it when watching a documentary on the Battle of Britain back in high school and it was said in roughly that fashion. It was a Weekday Wings documentary where Stuart Culpepper narrated on the Spitfire.

Any rate I'm off to fix my signature.

 

[LoneRider]

Reid: Thanks for the correction. I heard this speech or an excerpt of it when watching a documentary on the Battle of Britain back in high school and it was said in roughly that fashion. It was a Weekday Wings documentary where Stuart Culpepper narrated on the Spitfire fighter aircraft. I'm guessing the speech was chopped into the manner I heard it for comment.

Any rate I'm off to fix my signature.

 

[Maverick223]

You forgot about the most important modification that the VTR needs...paint...looks like a great rifle...even thought about getting the R-25 model till I discovered that they were not available in black, gray, et cetera. Personally I would lean towards the R-25 in .243, but that is me...what caliber were you considering, .223 I presume. Looks like a nice little project and it should be perfect for your usage.

 

[LoneRider]

.223 or .243 or even .308. But I think I'll likely go with .223.

 

[Reid73]

Hi LoneRider,

I'm pleased that you accepted my suggestion with the spirit in which it was intended. Very gracious of you.

If you're interested, you can hear a recording of the speech [catalogued as "June 4, 1940 Winston Churchill 'We Shall Fight on the Beaches'"] at this site. Sorry that I cannot provide a direct link, but in any case perhaps you'd also be interested in the other speeches they feature. Inspiring stuff!

Reid

 

[LoneRider]

I'll consider it Reid73. But to get back on the topic of my OP I'd say that it doesn't seem like a bad assumption that a varminter which is a very accurate rifle also has field ruggedness inherent to its design. After all what good is a hunting weapon that can't take field conditions.

 

[Reid73]

The M-16 / AR-15 rifle is not one of the most durable military rifles around; that honour would likely have to go to the AK-47, or to a bolt action like the Kar98k or SMLE. However, it should be quite sturdy enough for hunting, and you won't have to 'baby' it like you might a highly-polished Weatherby, Browning, etc.

 

[Maverick223]

and you won't have to 'baby' it like you might a highly-polished Weatherby, Browning, etc.

Whatcha talkin' bout...you don't have to baby a Weatherby or Browning...you just get a little sick when you don't.

 

[Owen]

If you intend to actually take the scope on and off, you do not want throw arms on your rings. The cams eventually gouge the aluminum, causing the fit to get...sloppy.

Go for a mount that uses a screw to clamp onto the rail.

 

[LoneRider]

If you intend to actually take the scope on and off, you do not want throw arms on your rings. The cams eventually gouge the aluminum, causing the fit to get...sloppy.

Go for a mount that uses a screw to clamp onto the rail.

I'm gonna put QD rings on the weapon adaptable to the rail system on the R15's upper receiver so that the BUIS I install can be utilized.

This is a target rifle/SHTF rifle.

 

[Kurt_D]

Don't waste money on Promag anything, they are junk, even their bipod mounts. If you want throw levers go with LaRue mounts, something like the LT-104, and be done with it. You can adjust the throw lever for wear or varying tolerances. Repeatable zero? you got it. Built like a tank? you got it.

Nikon makes fine optics. The only reason I went Leupold Mark 4 instead of Nikon Tactical was I got a deal on the Mark 4 I couldn't pass up.

Look at Bushmaster's predator as another option. I know they use a 1:8 twist barrel for heavier bullets, uses a 20" barrel (long enough) that's fluted, have a chome line BCG (a reveiw of the Remingtons says they don't) this will add reliablity, come in Black, and Bushmaster is building those VTRs for Remington anyway (Bushy's varminter line). I think the Bushy will make a better DMR.

http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_PCWVMS20FPRED8.asp

 

[LoneRider]

Don't waste money on Promag anything, they are junk, even their bipod mounts. If you want throw levers go with LaRue mounts, something like the LT-104, and be done with it. You can adjust the throw lever for wear or varying tolerances. Repeatable zero? you got it. Built like a tank? you got it.

Nikon makes fine optics. The only reason I went Leupold Mark 4 instead of Nikon Tactical was I got a deal on the Mark 4 I couldn't pass up.

Look at Bushmaster's predator as another option. I know they use a 1:8 twist barrel for heavier bullets, uses a 20" barrel (long enough) that's fluted, have a chome line BCG (a reveiw of the Remingtons says they don't) this will add reliablity, come in Black, and Bushmaster is building those VTRs for Remington anyway (Bushy's varminter line). I think the Bushy will make a better DMR.

http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm...MS20FPRED8.asp

Remington's rifle actually has gotten some rave reviews (yeah DPMS/Bushmaster are building the thing) so its an attractive option.

Color doesn't really matter to me. I kinda like the realtree pattern on that rifle. It sorta grows on you on the aesthetics scene. But that's way down on my list of priorities.

I'll check out the Bushy too...