Any guesses what Rugers new firearm will be?

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Not sure what to think about a new offering. It seems logical that Ruger would expand on some of their existing models. I would like to see a 3" LCR in .22lr to use as a trail gun.

As far as shotguns go, Ruger has a big and loyal customer base. If they brought out a semi auto or pump gun lots of people would buy them simply because they are "rugged and reliable" Rugers.
 
Not likely but...

The 10-22 Magnum all steel Redo would be very nice. I've heard production cost was a big issue at the time at $375-$450. Try to find one today used for less than $1000.
 
I like RC Model's idea. A Colt Woodsman would be sweet. However, an AR type variation is my guess. There are a lot of GI Joe wannabes out there.
 
It won't be anything different as ruger has had too many irons in the fire the past few years to have done a completely new platform design.

And thank you for defining the term "coming down off record sales" so thoroughly. I fail to see where what you just said is any different than what I did besides needing it to get the last word in.

You didn't type "down." Your comment made it sound like Ruger is continuing with record sales and they're not.
 
In no way is the market for "old west carbines" small -- it's certainly not as limited as you suggest.

Old west as old west? Not, "a great carbine that happens to be based on a design from the second half of 1800?"

I see a market for great carbines (guns/products in general) that happen to have 19th century roots. As I said, I own a carbine that is broadly a "cowboy gun" in that it is an 1892 clone, but I don't own it because I want to play old west dress-up (not that there is anything wrong with that) but because it is a compelling package when compared against anything else on the market.

Ruger already does a good business selling single action revolvers.

Most of which are about as old west as a Studebaker.

The Vaquero line is their old west effort. I don't know the relative sales but it seems as though they offer more Blackhawks than Vaqueros.

The big question would be not if there is a sizable market (there is) but could Ruger actually compete against Henry Rifle, Marlin, Mossberg, Uberti (Beretta), etc?


Oh, yeah, I think so.

1) Do a cast Savage 99 ripoff in .243, 7mm-08, and .308. It would be a natural for Ruger (looks much like the No. 1) and would fill a hole in the market. Offer a synthetic stock stainless version and a version built to typical No 1 standards. Unless I am mistaken only Browning is still offering conventional high power lever guns (not intermediate cartridges like 30-30) and the Savages in modern chamberings tend to run in the 2k+ range. Ruger could augment their line or just replace the No. 1.


2) Pull the Mini-14 routine on the 99 action giving a lever action rotary magazine .223 or 7.62x39 that would be 50-state legal, handle pointy bullets, and probably be a handy little carbine. Use some of their LCR knowledge to make this polymer-heavy to cut into the $500 MSRP/$400 street range.

Either of those would fill a gap in the available products you can currently buy new. They wouldn't have much direct competition in the lever space, though of course they would be running against bolt guns. If your theory that people want levers because levers are cool is correct the bolt competition wouldn't matter.

You didn't type "down."

Technically, in colloquial English, he didn't need to. "Coming off of record sales" means either "derived from record sales", or "with record sales in the immediate past". By context we see it means the latter. If record sales are in the past, that implies they are not in the current, which (assuming record means "record high") implicitly specifies a down trend. Adding the word "down" does not change the meaning. "Building on record sales," is the sort of phrase you would see to specify an upward trend.
 
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Bringing back the Deerfield 44 carbine. Possibly a 357 version?

^^^ I agree. Their 77/44s and 77/357s went over very well and with so many states limiting the use of rifles for deer to straight walled handgun cartridges, the little autos give a safer and easier platform compared to levers.
 
I'm hoping for a .357 semi-auto carbine utilizing the rotating magazine of the 77/357. It'd be a modern day M1 carbine, only better due to the more effective cartridge. I can't imagine a better utility rifle.
 
LCR with a longer barrel. It's pushing the "easy" button, but Springfield proved it works with the two versions of the XDs. Just a bit more recoil control for more stout loads.
 
I'm hoping for a .357 semi-auto carbine utilizing the rotating magazine of the 77/357. It'd be a modern day M1 carbine, only better due to the more effective cartridge. I can't imagine a better utility rifle. QUOTE

I have said someone needs to remake a M1 carbine in 357 mag. I would buy one if the price was decent. M1 carbines and the 30 carbine ammo are expensive and hard to come by.
 
I don't think one can assume that it's some kind of "50 state legal" type item - there appears to be a note in the rules about taking a firearm of equal or lesser value if the gun cannot be legally owned in the state of the winner's residence. Also, does the general guideline of 18 years old for a long gun, and 21 for a handgun apply everywhere? Do some states have a 21 year old requirement for ANY kind of firearm?
In any event, we'll know in a few days, anyway.
 
A 44 magnum GP100 to compete with the S&W 69
That would be called a Redhawk.

I think their loyal customers asked most often for lever action rifles and pump shotguns. The only problem with that is that Henry Rifle/Marlin would rip off their faces in the lever gun market and Remington/Mossberg would do the same with pump shotguns.

My guess would be something along the lines of a Keltech SUB2000.
Dude. If Ruger could make something like that and get it out in numbers (not a problem with Ruger) I wouldn't buy one.

I'D BUY THREE!!!!!!!! :D!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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No guesses, but I started this thread not "needing" anything. Then I saw:

I'm hoping a SR45c

Oh yeah, me too. I didn't even really look at the SR45 all that hard, thinking they'd be out with the c version any day...

and

I'll take an Officer's 1911 please

Yeah, I'd probably pick up one of those too. Didn't want to complicate the holster situation by getting the Commander, but an officer's would work just fine.


A 44 magnum GP100 to compete with the S&W 69


That would be called a Redhawk.

Hey, that still works. Only make it in .45 Colt w/ a 5.5 inch barrel. Stainless, I guess.
 
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223 scout rifle?
Interesting. That would make a few shooters happy at the same time of still pissing off the Scout Rifle aficionados. Ruger got a lot of free publicity with all the Scout purists coming out against the Ruger Scout and keeping the topic alive."

The Ruger Gunsite Scout is wildly popular despite what the Scout purists say or think. I wouldn't be surprised if Ruger came out with a version based on their American bolt action. A compact American with flash hider, peep sights and rail would be pretty easy to put together.

Of course marketing suggests that you spread out variations and features over a period of time so that people will buy one, and then want the added feature/improvement of the next version.
 
Old west as old west? Not, "a great carbine that happens to be based on a design from the second half of 1800?"

I see a market for great carbines (guns/products in general) that happen to have 19th century roots. As I said, I own a carbine that is broadly a "cowboy gun" in that it is an 1892 clone, but I don't own it because I want to play old west dress-up (not that there is anything wrong with that) but because it is a compelling package when compared against anything else on the market.

Go 'round and 'round in circles but there is demand for a (insert adjective here) carbine in the Henry/Winchester tradition.

Most of which are about as old west as a Studebaker.

Yes indeed. Studebaker wagons -- particularly their conestoga wagons which were known as the very best.

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The Vaquero line is their old west effort. I don't know the relative sales but it seems as though they offer more Blackhawks than Vaqueros.

Alrighty.

1) Do a cast Savage 99 ripoff in .243, 7mm-08, and .308. It would be a natural for Ruger (looks much like the No. 1) and would fill a hole in the market. Offer a synthetic stock stainless version and a version built to typical No 1 standards. Unless I am mistaken only Browning is still offering conventional high power lever guns (not intermediate cartridges like 30-30) and the Savages in modern chamberings tend to run in the 2k+ range. Ruger could augment their line or just replace the No. 1.

I think what you describe would be a great gun, but I seriously doubt it would generate strong sales.

2) Pull the Mini-14 routine on the 99 action giving a lever action rotary magazine .223 or 7.62x39 that would be 50-state legal, handle pointy bullets, and probably be a handy little carbine. Use some of their LCR knowledge to make this polymer-heavy to cut into the $500 MSRP/$400 street range.

Neat, but I don't think it would sell.

Either of those would fill a gap in the available products you can currently buy new. They wouldn't have much direct competition in the lever space, though of course they would be running against bolt guns. If your theory that people want levers because levers are cool is correct the bolt competition wouldn't matter...

I think most that are going to buy a lever are going to want one similar in looks to what Chuck Conners used to twirl.
 
If the surveys most of us got from ruger over the last year are any indication, more than likely a Ranch Rifle in something other than .223
 
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