Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Any Ideas What This Actually Is? Lot's of Pic's

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Salty1, Sep 16, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Salty1

    Salty1 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2008
    Messages:
    203
    Location:
    Corinth, Texas
    My Dad received this from an old uncle of his who lived in Nova Scotia. I believe that it is a pirate boarding gun, after lots of research I am no further ahead than when I started. The axe and spike appear to be brass, it has lot's of silver inlay that is in good shape for the age of it. I figured that some forum members may have seen one of these and could provide some opinions and direction as to how to research it further. He would like to sell it, I would like to have it at a fair value so any ideas on worth would also be appreciated.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Birdmang

    Birdmang Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2009
    Messages:
    1,189
    Reproduction axe flintlock?
     
  3. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2006
    Messages:
    12,705
    Location:
    In a part of Utah that resembles Tattooine.
    Something for when you are having a VERY bad day.
     
  4. essayons21

    essayons21 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,232
    Location:
    Down by the rivah, VA
    Not sure if its a repro or not, but it may be a boarding pistol. Used in naval service, boarding pistols were often identified by a birds-head grip with studs, etc. on the butt of the pistol grip so that the pistol could be used as a club in hand-to-hand combat. The blade is reminiscent of a boarding axe, used for cutting rigging and shipboard combat.

    Its hard to tell from the blurry photos, but the inscriptions on the blade appear to be arabic.

    If it is real, the construction would indicate 18th century. I'll try to check some references over the weekend and see if I can find anything similar.
     
  5. hogshead

    hogshead Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    987
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Wonder How the atf would classify that. Bet you cant own it in Cali.lol
     
  6. armoredman

    armoredman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2003
    Messages:
    16,436
    Location:
    proud to be in AZ
    How do you fire it? The axe blade is right where the hand would go...
     
  7. justashooter in pa

    justashooter in pa member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    358
    fired by clutching the blade between the arm and chest with thumb on side of blade and finger on trigger, and holding the forward end of gun in left hand. no sights, and not really intended to be aimed. just kinda pointed in the general direction for effect. prolly best loaded with shot. round for christians, and square for wogs.
     
  8. chuckusaret

    chuckusaret member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Messages:
    1,606
    Location:
    West Palm Beach Florida
    Appears the thing is held together with bolts/screws. I don't believe they had slotted head bolts/screws in those days, did they? I guess they did. According to my son they have had the slotted head screw since the 16th century.

    Neat looking weapon.
     
  9. Bruno2

    Bruno2 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    886
    Location:
    Tulsa , Oklahoma
    Have you shot it yet ? :what:
     
  10. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2002
    Messages:
    14,655
    Location:
    Centennial, CO
    Hard to tell if it's real or a non-gun made in N. Africa for the tourists. It's missing parts and it has a lot of rust. The inlays and sideplates are pretty rudamentary compared to the axe head, which suggests to me they were not originally built together.

    Doesn't mean its not real and old. You'd need a real appraiser for that.
     
  11. Magwa

    Magwa Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2009
    Messages:
    27
    Location:
    The 27th state
    Where's Antiques Road Show when you need it?
     
  12. DMK

    DMK Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    8,797
    Location:
    Over the hills and far, far away
    That right side plate looks extremely crude compared to the rest of the gun. So much so, my first thought was that it was a field repair,
     
  13. JellyJar

    JellyJar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,254
    Location:
    Alabama
    Wall Hanger!

    To me it appears to be a recently made "antique" not quite real firearm made in North Africa ( most likely Morocco ) for the tourist trade. Probably only a few years old.

    Hang it on your wall and make up stories about it for your guests :D


    P.S.

    Don't ever try to shoot it!!!:eek:
     
  14. Salty1

    Salty1 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2008
    Messages:
    203
    Location:
    Corinth, Texas
    I can say that it is not recently made, the uncle told my Dad that he has had it for over 50 years, he was in his upper 90's when he passed and my Dad got it about 20 years ago. I will try to locate somebody who can physically look at it and try to date it. The silver inlay is real, that has been tested. Thanks for the input......
     
  15. doc2rn

    doc2rn Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2006
    Messages:
    3,495
    Location:
    SW Florida
    I think I have seen the image on the blade b4. I think it is spanish in origin. The flintlock however is more crude and has seen better days. I wouldn't doubt it was probably made for pirating in some place like Jamaica or one of the other famous pirating hangouts. Dont forget these where still in operation up through the civil war.
     
  16. Oyeboten

    Oyeboten Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,696
    The Screw Heads are 'modern'...


    It has some contradictions going on...


    The Brass Castings of the non-lock side Side Plate, and, Trigger and Trigger Guard are very rudely finished and set/inlain.

    Possibly, for Morrocan 'Pirates'...Lol...or, made for 1940s-1950s era Tourists...


    The Iron Work looks very crude also...though, m-a-y-b-e, the Arm was functional...and later in it's life, had various Screws replaced with newer ones...hard to guess from here...
     
  17. danprkr

    danprkr Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2009
    Messages:
    1,337
    No idea, but I am intrigued. I'll track this thread for sure.
     
  18. essayons21

    essayons21 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1,232
    Location:
    Down by the rivah, VA
    could you get any sharper pictures of the blade?
     
  19. ants

    ants Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2007
    Messages:
    3,555
    "Aaarrgh! I be pleased, matey, if ye mind yer muzzle control awhilst yer swingin that axe!"
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page