Any new semi-autos coming out soon?

[Kenshin]

What the title says.

 

[Harry Tuttle]

fn p90 & f2000

 

[Ian]

Robinson Arms will be releasing the XCR pretty soon...

http://www.robarm.com

 

[Rembrandt]

Available first of 2005, .22 LR belt fed upper for an AR....may have to get one of these ordered....sweet! []

http://www.lakesideguns.com/title1/upper.html

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

A .22LR belt-fed silenced AR upper? I didn't know Gunkid had his own manufacturing facility. Looks like fun though!

 

[Deep Blue]

That video of the belt fed, fully auto .22RF might be the coolest thing I've seen in 27 years of living.

 

[Kenshin]

Well, the .22 I can't get cause I'm behind the Iron Curtain.

How much will those Fn's and the XCR cost?

Anything below $500?

Edit: Gee, the FN's abd XCR I can't get either. Nothing Kalis can look forward to.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

Well, that tears it. Now we simply must defeat the Full Auto Ban.

It was annoying, but tolerable, until I saw a .22LR beltfed...

 

[RooK]

Kenshin, you really need to start posting that these topics of yours are CA related. Despite what your postbit says, if you don't put it in the post, people won't take it into consideration when answering.

Your choices that come to mind are: M1a, Ruger Semis, Keltec, M1 carbine, Garand. You should be able to get the Rugers for under $500 depending on store or if it's used and a Garand through CMP is a good option.

 

[Harry Tuttle]

A pistol grip, a magazine and semiauto makes CA say "no".

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/awguide/index.html


http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dwcl/12275.htm
12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.

 

[50 Freak]

"12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:"


Note the word CENTERFIRE RIFLE, last I look a 22 is rimfire. Plus the fact it is a belt fed and belt feds are legal in Kali (I know, I just got a 1919 a few months ago). So the 22 you can have in kali, only problem is that you cannot have a belt linked with more than 10 rounds as Kali considers belts a "magazine". Not much fun having a belt fed with only 10 rounds belt. Unless of course you had some belts already and hence are grandfathered in.

Would be kinda hard to prove with the 22 belts as they are new productions though.

 

[BamBam-31]

Kenshin, I'm in CA also.

Your best bets for semi-auto rifles in our state for around $500 are the Mini-14 and Mini-30, the SU-16 (go for the regular one, the B has a thinner barrel that'll heat up faster), and a CMP Garand.

 

[FNFiveSeven]

ummmm...

Just where is the detachable magazine on a BELT-FED rifle? You could always use a single shot lower for legality sake.

Does anyone make a .223 belt fed upper for the AR, that would be legal in Kali so long as your AR lower didn't accept detachable magazines (e.g. FAB-10), right?

 

[Ian]

I believe belts are considered magazines by the law, unfortunately.

 

[MagnumCaliber357]

i second that, belts of ammuntion are considered the same as detachible magazines. 10 rnd limit also is in effect

 

[FNFiveSeven]

I think belts are considered "ammunition feeding devices" but are not the same, in the eyes of the law, as magazines. Therefore, if your rifle is belt fed, it think it can still have the pistol grip, flash suppressor, etc. features that would make it an assault weapon under Kali law (with a detachable magazine). But you're right, you can't link up more than 10 rounds today, although there's no law against using those old 10+ links you bought before Jan 1st, 2000. Just don't shoot them below 11 rounds and you'll be fine to link them back up again, as they will always retain their "pre-ban" status.

 

[Dmack_901]

I believe belts are considered magazines by the law, unfortunately.

So 1 link in a belt, is a 1 round magazine, but when 11 links are combined it is an 11 round magazine. That may be what the legislators think, but it sounds like 11 one round magazines connected together to me. If I glued my hands together, they I'm pretty sure I would have a two hands glued together, each with 5 fingers. Not one big hand with 10 fingers. That needs to be challenged with a good lawyer.

 

[artherd]

Belts are still a large grey-area.

That needs to be challenged with a good lawyer

The whole LAW needs to be challenged due to ambiguity and contradiction!

 

[Gewehr98]

I'd like to see the Daewoo's come back.

Particularly the 7.62x39 versions. With sidefolders, etc.

Edited: Just noticed this is a PRK thread. Sorry.

 

[Kenneth Lew]

I can see the ban on belt-fed firearms in the future for CA becuase it would be too easy to "manufacturer" a high capacity magazine.