Any stories of bad advice you received regards guns?

[trekker73]

As a young man I read a petersens hunting annual and articles by Capstick and John wooters convinced me to put money down on a 460 weatherby MkV lazermark. Id never fired anything larger than 12ga slugs before. I got one for about 2k, this was almost 30 years ago.

A local farmer said I could use his place to test it and advised me he tested guns from the hip first so they dont hurt his shoulder. I was big, 250lbs so I thought this should be okay. The 460 had its own ideas. At the shot it went backards from my hip at about 50 miles an hour, landing on the ground behind me with some skin from my knuckles attached to the trigger guard. The farmers eyes almost popped out his head too, at least I knew he hadnt been playing me. These days I cant handle guns that powerful, but at least I know to hold things the right way

 

[Hartkopf]

Bad advice for self defense; shoot to kill.

Shoot only to stop the threat.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

"That there little pocket .380 is the best thing since sliced bread. You'll *love* it". (referring to an original LCP)

Tiny grip, lousy trigger, sights that may as well not be there.... yeah, it's most practical for a belly gun, along with most other "micro" type guns I've ever dealt with, and most snub .38's.

 

[Waveski]

... it's most practical for a belly gun, along with most other "micro" type guns I've ever dealt with, and most snub .38's.

C'mon now , the LCP is not comparable to a J frame. Shooting the former is like trying to aim a Zippo disposable cigarette lighter , the latter is a fine small firearm. The Taurus 85 , while a bit inferior to the S&W trigger-wise , is still a serviceable snub. That makes up most of the snub .38s.

Some of the worst advice I ever got is being told that a J frame is a "belly gun" , only good within 5-7 yards.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

C'mon now , the LCP is not comparable to a J frame. Shooting the former is like trying to aim a Zippo disposable cigarette lighter , the latter is a fine small firearm. The Taurus 85 , while a bit inferior to the S&W trigger-wise , is still a serviceable snub. That makes up most of the snub .38s.

Some of the worst advice I ever got is being told that a J frame is a "belly gun" , only good within 5-7 yards.

True, and I *do* agree. However, you and I both know that with the amount "Average Joe" actually practices with either one of em, they're neither one suitable for naught but a belly or eyeball gun. If you put in the work with either one, you can stretch em out quite a ways; but most never actually "put in the work".

 

[pbearperry]

Many years ago a friend told me WD-40 was the best thing to protect my firearms.

 

[shootbrownelk]

Bad advice for self defense; shoot to kill.

Shoot only to stop the threat.

They can only sue you if they're alive.

 

[Hartkopf]

They can only sue you if they're alive.

That's the advice I got from an old timer 30 years ago.

I was taught recently, that if the threat is stopped, you stop shooting. Otherwise it's murder.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Otherwise it's murder.

Yes, and prison is a real place.

Worst advice I got was "Everyone should have an AR15." Why? There's options. Buy what suits you in a chambering that's useful to you.

Same goes for 22lr pistols. I just don't care about them and I don't find them useful.

 

[P89DCSS]

Everyone needs a 1911 in 45acp if they're serious about self defense. Sold it and bought a Ruger GP100, much better for me.

 

[Hokkmike]

Bad advice for self defense; shoot to kill.

Shoot only to stop the threat.

Center mass is the mantra.

 

[Hokkmike]

Not bad advice necessarily, but some guns stores have tried to talk me into buying what they have in stock as opposed to what I really want or need.

 

[Kleanbore]

shooting to "wound" or "stop the threat" is not viable.

Those are two different things.

The advice, if you MUST to use a weapon to defend yourself, "shoot to kill" is appropriate.

Nope.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

“The 9mm is just as effective as the .45 ACP”

Piffle.

The reason departments use the 9mm is because today’s small stature and female officers cannot handle the big .45 and the price per round is cheaper for 9mm. It has nothing to do with effectiveness.

 

[Hokkmike]

Those are two different things.


Nope.

I reckon it is OK for us to respectfully disagree. I will add, that I hope to never ever have to shoot anyone.

 

[entropy]

I reckon it is OK for us to respectfully disagree. I will add, that I hope to never ever have to shoot anyone.

You can be sure that if you do, the prosecution will introduce this post as evidence:

Center mass is the mantra - shooting to "wound" or "stop the threat" is not viable. The advice, if you MUST to use a weapon to defend yourself, "shoot to kill" is appropriate.

They can only sue you if they're alive.

True, shootbrownelk, but their families can sue you if if they're dead, and often do. They don't always win, but lawyers are an expensive accessory.



Worst gun advice came from my own head: "You can fix this...."

Also, from my Dad, "Trap shooting is more fun than Skeet." True, but both are expensive, and shooting Trap has cost me a lot of money over the years.......

 

[JFrank]

Bad advice or in accurate

Annealing is a must do'
Consentricity gage a must have'
Tumbler is a must'
Set my die to touch then add a 1/4 turn'
Probably a few more ....

 

[Kleanbore]

I reckon it is OK for us to respectfully disagree.

You do not want to be quoted as having said that shooting to kill is justified, and you do not want to be accused of having done so.

 

[Hokkmike]

You can be sure that if you do, the prosecution will introduce this post as evidence:






True, shootbrownelk, but their families can sue you if if they're dead, and often do. They don't always win, but lawyers are an expensive accessory.

You are right entropy - we live in a society that operates on a basis of fear of lawsuits. If they use my post as evidence - I hope they concentrate on the second half.

 

[shoobe01]

More bad advice than good.

Won't get into any as some in this thread would count.

 

[Kleanbore]

You are right entropy - we live in a society that operates on a basis of fear of lawsuits.

Fear of lawsuits?

Nope.

What you are doing is creating evidence that can go to state of mind and that can indicate a predisposition to criminal violence.

 

[Hokkmike]

Fear of lawsuits?

Nope.

What you are doing is creating evidence that can go to state of mind and that can indicate a predisposition to criminal violence.

Modified my original post.

 

[entropy]

It remains in it's original form in post #16.

 

[Kleanbore]

Modified my original post.

All posts are permanent.

On shooting to kill:

[URL="https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/why-we-do-not-shoot-to-kill.870188/"]Why We Do Not Shoot to Kill[/URL]

Ths issue is knowing ly firing any shots that are not necessary to stop...as in additional shots, for example.

 

[Hokkmike]

All posts are permanent.

On shooting to kill:

Why We Do Not Shoot to Kill

Ths issue is knowing ly firing any shots that are not necessary to stop...as in additional shots, for example.

Thanks for the link...