Crazie in the Gun Range Parking lot

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This is a great topic because it shows the mentality of most law abiding gun owners. I know for a fact that I have avoided many more problems since I started carrying a gun because I realized that it just wasn't worth it to get mixed up in a fight with some loser.

I will take more insults and still stay calm because I have options. I could do something about it but often, these jokers are not a serious threat, they are blow hards that quickly sense when you are not afraid of them and they have always backed off.

Most of the time they are bullies or wife/child beaters who know when someone is not going to back down and they tend to back down but they often have to show you that they are not scared of you so they will leave you with a cuss word or obsence gesture and they are gone. If you can hold your temper, that will be the end of it. Sometimes they go too far and decide to get physical, that is why we carry. These people are stupid and if they can not control themselves, they will be controlled by someone, eventually. Walking monkeys and talking apes.:rolleyes:
 
You did it just right. Let someone call you all the names he wants. Shooting someone over his own stupid driving behavior definitely isn't worth it.

Maybe he's "compensating" for having to drive a VW. ;)
 
we had a real road rage incident here in Miami a few days back. Two young African-American (did I spell that right?) 'yutes' got into it heading South on I-95 out of the GoldenGlades. One driving a stolen black Lexus the other a stolen white Maxima. When the fender bender part happened, they started shooting at each other. One then sped through a service break in the lane divider, and headed the wrong way in the other lane, causing two more accidents.

Both the perps got away, by abandoning the stolen cars, and just fading into the 'hood.
 
Whoever came up with the saying "An armed society is a polite society" probably failed to take road rage into account.

That was Robert Heinlein, in his novel _Beyond this Horizon_. The novel takes place in a society a century or three from now that's undergone a considerable ammount of Darwinian filtering. Something this guy was ripe for.
 
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/eastsidenews/134895155_rage04n.html


Or, why slamming on the brakes is a bad idea.

Both men in fatal I-405 crash driving with suspended licenses

By Peyton Whitely
Times Snohomish County bureau

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BOTHELL — Two drivers involved in an apparent road-rage accident Monday on Interstate 405 each had suspended driver's licenses and been cited numerous times for traffic violations.

David Burelison, 40, of Mill Creek was pronounced dead at the scene, after the sport-utility vehicle he was driving rolled over about five times. The other driver, Robert M. Inouye, 22, of Woodinville was treated Monday night at Evergreen Hospital Medical Center in Kirkland and released.

The state Department of Licensing said the licenses of both drivers had been suspended.

Inouye was to appear in Kirkland Municipal Court next week to respond to charges brought in May that he was driving without a driver's license or insurance.

Neither Inouye nor his family nor the family of Burelison could be reached for comment yesterday.

According to the State Patrol, the 1999 Chevrolet Blazer that Burelison was driving was headed south on I-405 north of the Bothell-Everett Highway. Inouye, driving a 1999 Saturn, also was headed south.

Witnesses reported the Blazer had been speeding and weaving through southbound traffic, State Patrol Trooper Lance Ramsay said. The Blazer pulled up behind the Saturn, which slowed, witnesses told police. The Blazer then swung around the Saturn, and Burelison slammed on the brakes. The Saturn hit the Blazer and sent it out of control, Ramsay said.


He said the accident appeared to be the result of road rage.

Burelison's record includes 14 traffic offenses since 1989, the most recent a charge of driving with a suspended license in Lynnwood in 1997. He was found guilty and paid a $500 fine.



Inouye was involved in 11 traffic offenses between 2000 and 2003, with citations issued in Bothell, Issaquah, Kirkland, Lynnwood, Woodinville and Seattle, according to court records.

He was cited by the Kirkland Police Department on May 22 for driving with a suspended license and not having liability insurance, according to court records. He had been free on a $250 bail and was to appear in court next Tuesday morning.

Information from The Associated Press is included in this report.

Peyton Whitely: 206-464-2259 or [email protected]
 
I really saw him as more of an amusement than a threat. Very animated fellow. Maybe he was just having a bad day, maybe his girlfriend's dog had just eaten his cat or something. Who knows. Never seriously considered opening fire on the little bugger, just kinda fleetingly wondered if I could make him soil himself. Looking back on it, I probably should have regarded him a little more seriously, but I had been up for a long time and tend to be pretty mellow when tired. Just goes to show that if you live long enough you'll see just about everything.
 
Many people have never learned self-control.

He may have been so far out of control that he never noticed the SKS or the location of the parking lot.

He also may very well have soiled himself when his girlfriend told him why she pulled him back into the car...
 
Quote: "Whoever came up with the saying "An armed society is a polite society" probably failed to take road rage into account."

That was Robert Heinlein, in his novel _Beyond this Horizon_. The novel takes place in a society a century or three from now that's undergone a considerable ammount of Darwinian filtering.

LOL! Ok, I do see his point. That's a great idea. I guess I sort of had something like pre Civil War southern culture in mind when I thought of "An armed society is a polite society", if that makes any sense.

It's interesting that in my state, you can carry a concealed gun in your car without any sort of permit (although the law is a little weird and I'm not sure how many people actually take advantage of it). Yet I see instances of rude driving daily, and a case of road rage maybe once every few months.

Give it a few generations though and hopefully all the rude people's genes will be removed from our population. :)
 
Whoever came up with the saying "An armed society is a polite society" probably failed to take road rage into account.

When the guy with the Raven noticed the 1911 Delmar had, he sure got polite awful quick.

I have no patience for people like this gunrange parking lot stroke. Make them take a swing at you first and then you can kick their @$$ with impunity.
 
Let's see... in that situation, considering the three main choices of brass, I think Okie made the right pick:

1) Brass knuckes :scrutiny:

2) The unspent brass at his side :uhoh:

3) Pure brass :D

Power is nothing without wisdom.
 
the world would be better off

without the 5150 jerk.but don't sweat it,he will take a swing at a
armed women some day and eat a .38 + p hi shok...
 
Glad it turned out ok, Buddha Cruff....it sure sounds like it was a fun experience, nonetheless. I'd have some suspicions that it was done in large part for show for the benefit of the female in the car to compensate for the VW Fox (what, did they quit making that in '84?) and other 'shortcomings' of a more physiological nature (notice the yellow stains on his shoes?) . These guys are the ones you hear about later in life who have had the hair transplants and buy the Vette after the second divorce.

I'm pleased with your discretion, Grasshopper. Smiling at the little barking dog is fun, isn't it?

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
These guys are the ones you hear about later in life who have had the hair transplants and buy the Vette after the second divorce.

I don't think this guy will ever get a Corvette, unless he sells his mobile home and all his possessions.
 
good point, CZ...in most parts of OK and NTX tornadoes and divorces are both the most common causes of losing trailer houses and cars.

Of course, who ends up with the pit bull, 4WD, and satellite dish are always up in the air.


Once again, good work on your part, cruffler.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
"Isn't it a calming influence to know you have the firepower to defend yourself when you run into these nut cases?"
What a profound sentiment! KNOWING that you have the means to defend your safety means you have less need to bolster your ego. You know you can calmly deal with the situation, so . . . you don't escalate it. Quite often, when a situation spirals out of control, it's because both parties escalated.

Good outcome.
 
I've got 1 for you.

I was heading down a ramp that lead to HWY 63 bypass when a car made a u-turn off the road and started driving the wrong way up the ramp. I refused to scoot over and forced the guy off the road onto the shoulder. As he pulled up nest to me a hollered "you are going the wrong way". The old fart that was driving was probably about in his seventies rolled down his window and said "what did you say to me?". So I repeated myself and he responded with "don't :cuss: tell me how to drive". Then I told him he was going to get somebody killed. So he pulls a tire knocker out from under his seat and tell me how he was going to beat my blankety blank head in. It kind of took me by surprise but after the initial shock I dared him to do it. At that the old fart jumps out of his car to get me and his car starts to roll away. His car rolling away gave a reason to mock him which really made him mad. When he finally got his car stopped and put in park he jumped back out and headed my way. I waited until he got to the edge of my back door, said "by idiot" and drove off leaving him standing in the middle of the road with a what just happened look on his face. I drove off hoping he got to where he was going with out hurting anyone. I later told this story in my CCW class to the instructor. He said that I did the right thing and name some laws that were in the elderly favor when it comes to getting into fight with young men. He said if I had tried to do anything there would have been a good chance of getting into trouble, or at least a bad civil suit that I would have probably lost.
I can't wait untill I get old so I can be a sphincter and be protected by law.:barf: I would have liked to beat some common courtesy into him but looking back it probably would not have done any good. He'll cross the wrong guy on a real bad trip one of these days and may not live to regret it.
 
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I've seen some weird things in life and used to get bent out of shape about everything. In the last few years mainly from what I have learned on here and stories like these I think I am much more cool-headed about things. My blood pressure might still triple but I try to remain cool on the outside. Taking some of my crime scene classes really really emphasizes how unhinged some people can be. This forces the reasonable man to go out of his way to accomodate the other party. Earlier in life I probably couldn't have done this due to pride but now I can swallow it down do my best to cool the situation.


So I am just using this thread to say Thank You to everybody who has posted similar stories and the way they have handled them.

Evan
 
He said that I did the right thing and name some laws that were in the elderly favor when it comes to getting into fight with young men.

All bets are off when you grab a tire iron.
Laws also favor women in the same regard as the elderly. Too bad this guy contributed to the gene pool.
 
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