Anybody else here carry without CCW?

[WonderNine]

I been carrying for years now without one. I shouldn't have to get one in the first place, but I may someday. Anybody else here like me or am I in the minority? I know other people that carry without CCW as well.

The other thing is, my state has two classes of permits I believe. One for guns and one for "dangerous weapons". Since I also carry one of the "dangerous weapons" I guess I would need to go through two tests or something....what a crock of crap.

 

[Spackler]

If a permit is readily available in your state and you're carrying without one, I think that's foolish. Why risk it? That "you shouldn't have to get one in the first place" is irrelevant. The cop that arrests you isn't going to get into a discussion about the constitution with you. The reality of the situation is, if you want to carry legally, you need to get one. Crock of crap or not, you are knowingly breaking the law. Get legal and you'll never have to worry about it.

 

[Strings]

Spackler is right...

... but only hits the tip...

We KNOW that there are lurkers here that are antis. Is it such a stretch to see someone from HCI or VPC backtracking you, to figure out where to report you?

One word of advice: if you're knowingly doing something illegal (wether it's constitutional or not), don't talk about it here!

 

[Kevinch]

Hmmm...well, I go against my intuition that this is a trolling exercise, just to say that I don't & I wouldn't. Getting caught illegally carrying isn't worth risking my RKBA over.

 

[WonderNine]

Re: Spackler is right...

Originally posted by Hunter Rose
Is it such a stretch to see someone from HCI or VPC backtracking you, to figure out where to report you?

Yes, that's quite a stretch. How would they do it anyways? Give me a break.

 

[WonderNine]

Originally posted by Kevinch
Hmmm...well, I go against my intuition that this is a trolling exercise, just to say that I don't & I wouldn't. Getting caught illegally carrying isn't worth risking my RKBA over.

What is RKBA?

 

[pwolfman]

Right to Keep and Bear Arms

 

[Hkmp5sd]

If your state will issue you a CCW, there is no reason to carry illegally instead of getting a license. Why risk arrest/confiscation/trial/lawyers/jail/fines/loss of rights forever and carry a firearm without one?

 

[Diesle]

Re: Re: Spackler is right...

Originally posted by WonderNine
Yes, that's quite a stretch. How would they do it anyways? Give me a break.

Very simple.

Go to the web logs from the server hosting this board. Get the IP address(s) of the computer you sent your post from at the times that you sent the posts through. Contact your ISP and have them disclose what user was logged into the service using whatever IP address at whatever time.

Dont let your lack on internet knowledge rear up on you... be aware that you are traceable.

Diesle

 

[Bob Locke]

One word of advice: if you're knowingly doing something illegal (wether it's constitutional or not), don't talk about it here.

'Nuff said.

Whether you break the law (stupid as the law may be) needs to be your own business and no one else's.

 

[tyme]

If your state will issue you a CCW, there is no reason to carry illegally instead of getting a license. Why risk arrest/confiscation/trial/lawyers/jail/fines/loss of rights forever and carry a firearm without one?

There are reasons. Principle. Defending your rights. Whether principle is more important than being "free" in society is another matter, and depends on personal situations. Some people can't even defend themselves most of the time with a ccw because they have business in gun-free zones. What then? The options are break the law with a ccw, break the law without a ccw, or become another defenseless sheep running for cover and praying if some lunatic decides to start shooting with their own illegally carried gun.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

with a ccw because they have business in gun-free zones.

That's what I mean. IF you CAN have a CCW and carry legally, you should do so. If you CANNOT carry legally (ie gun-free zone) that is a personal decision each individual must make and should keep quiet about.l

 

[EnfieldIII]

I'll have to go with Bob Locke on this one. This should be something between you and your Priest

 

[Strings]

just to show how to "stretch"...

Actually, several police officers have made something of a hobby out of figuring out where people live. In this case howeve, the people in question were teenagers, and they were "backtracke" through simple social engineering (there have been numerous stories about it)...

I wasn't even thinking abut the tech angle, although it IS fairly easy...

 

[GhostShooter]

Please don't admit to (what in some places) are felonies on a public board.

 

[Ledbetter]

I hate to come down too hard (again) on someone for this, but all kinds of people visit here, not all of them friendly to the RKBA, and the last thing this board should be used for is "proof" that "gun nuts" ignore the law.

This is just a waste of bandwidth; if it's not a troll, it's dim-witted, to say the least.

 

[WonderNine]

Contact your ISP and have them disclose what user was logged into the service using whatever IP address at whatever time.

Yes, I realize that, I know quite alot about computers. However ISP's don't just hand out that information to anyone you know. And even if they did, what good would it do them? What are they gonna do, send an FBI agent out to follow me around and catch me in the act? Give me a fricken break!

 

[WonderNine]

Originally posted by Ledbetter
This is just a waste of bandwidth; if it's not a troll, it's dim-witted, to say the least.

Oh you rubes with your "troll" this and "troll" that. If you don't like the topic than don't respond. If you don't have anything to contribute to the thread, than you're the troll.

 

[Jorah]

Originally posted by WonderNine
Oh you rubes with your "troll" this and "troll" that. If you don't like the topic than don't respond. If you don't have anything to contribute to the thread, than you're the troll.

http://www.thehighroad.org/code-of-conduct.html

Spamming, trolling, flaming, and personal attacks are prohibited. You can disagree with other members, even vehemently, but it must be done in a well-mannered form. Attack the argument, not the arguer.

 

[WonderNine]

Originally posted by Jorah
http://www.thehighroad.org/code-of-conduct.html

I guess we're both trolls then since we're calling each other trolls and dim-wits.

 

[Ledbetter]

"You rubes and your 'troll' this and 'troll' that."--Very classy.

This is a troll thread. Whether the starter realizes/acknowledges it or not is moot.

 

[WonderNine]

Originally posted by Ledbetter
"You rubes and your 'troll' this and 'troll' that."--Very classy.

This is a troll thread. Whether the starter realizes/acknowledges it or not is moot.

How is it a troll thread? He insulted me so I responded in kind. People who call troll in every thread topic they dislike deserve the same treatment.

 

[Monkeyleg]

If the anti's are indeed watching (as I'm sure they are), they'd be truly surprised at the number of elected officials--Dem's and Rep's--who carry illegally. Judges, city councilmen, state level representatives...

It's not just paranoid Little People who break an immoral law.

 

[NEon]

All the time. We do not need them here! We have a strong feeling for the 2nd!
And if you are trolling and want a location. VERMONT!!

 

[Diesle]

Just thinking... Lets cool out on this one. I think we've all got the point.

Diesle