Anybody else live in a rough city?

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NYC actually has one of the lowest violent crime rates per capita, of virtually any major city in the country.
I'm talking Manhattan, but when Guiliani was mayor, he cleaned it up. Disney wanted to come to Broadway and didn't want trouble. I remember walking at night from the Port Authority bus terminal to the Village (somewhere around 45 blocks) and I never felt in danger. I don't think I'd do that today.
 
SpeedAKL:

Worst in New York I've seen in South Bronx around Yankee Stadium - but I didn't hang around long enough to find out!

That' why your still posting today.......;)
 
I would say some areas of Gastonia are some of the roughest in the US of A.

I would agree with you. I stayed the night there after racing at the local dirt track, brought the tools in the motel room with me, guns too obviously, the 1am scene at the Waffle House was of course pretty sketchy.
 
Rough?

I tell ya... between my Home Owner's Association dues and my Property Owner's dues, and my 2 mortgages, and college loans...it's hard to NOT believe I'm robbed every day! LOL
 
I would agree with you. I stayed the night there after racing at the local dirt track, brought the tools in the motel room with me, guns too obviously, the 1am scene at the Waffle House was of course pretty sketchy.

That would be sketchy, exp. since your prob at the US 321/I85 Waffle house which is right on the border with some of the bad parts of Gastonia. That area is famous for being the last place you want to be after 10.
 
From my friends a couple who are still on duty in NY, there are a lot more crimes that never get logged in as crimes. I have a buddy I met back in the 80's who was one if not the youngest to make Dective third grade, he started with TNT then vice, major crimes, and Robbery Homicide, I know him since he joined, a happy go lucky kid, half italian, half Jewish. As the years went by, he got just about every medal the dept. could give out, but he lost his marriage, and became a shell of a man, and what he saw that sounds exciting to tell the storys, actually eats up the good out of your soul. I met him when the Joel Steinberg case was big news back in the day. Most cops just laugh at the process, as for every abuser caught, a hundred get away. My buddy used to get his mug in the papers quite often. He shot an old lady, according to the papers, and did a year of desk duty, while the investigation cleared him, the old 350 lb lady was charging at him with a butcher knife in her kitchen in Bed Sty, cracked out, holding her kids hand on the stove, it's ugly and the only cases we get to see on tv or in the paper, are so biased and have been hand picked to glorify or degrade leo's, when you see a hundred joel steinbergs that get away, you start to loose the passion for the job, and start taking out that frustration on whoever is close to you. New york crime stats are total bullcrap, if they documented the cases that I heard about alone they would be off the grid. And the NY press has their own agenda, none of which is to give you the facts.
 
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From my friends a couple who are still on duty in NY, there are a lot more crimes that never get logged in as crimes.

That's true in virtually every major and medium-sized city in the country.
 
Just remember: everything is relative, folks. If you think you live in a bad place, take a vacation to Nuevo Laredo or Juarez.
 
What actually is included in "NYC"? I consider NYC to be everything between Nyack and Long Island.
 
What actually is included in "NYC"? I consider NYC to be everything between Nyack and Long Island.

NYC consists of 5 boroughs.
The Bronx,Kings(Brooklyn)Manhattan,Queens and Staten Island.
 
D-Day are you kidding about living in St. Louis? I think they have the #1 murder rate... maybe Oakland, but very close. Go for St. Charles? the little town right outside of STL. Kansas City is pretty rough. I've gone on a few ride-a-longs with the police and they show me how EVERY car has a few warrents, but we don't pull them over unless they have 10 or a state warrent. Crazy, I know...
 
Sorry, yeah, I've been to Juarez, I imagine there is lots of pickpocketing as one would, we also saw a truck full of federalis armed to the teeth drive by... Boy they love Coke though!
 
St Louis City, south side, a mixture of neighbors. Yuppies are buying and re-habbing the older houses, but there are crackhouses two blocks away. It's a mixed bag, some neighborhoods are worse than others, but all the bad guys are mobile, and we already KNOW they're all armed. Lots of clueless Liberals in my area, walking from tavern to tavern on Friday nights, but at least they're smart enough to travel in herds. Still lots of street robberies, but the north side is a lot worse. We had a guy shot at an ATM at 10AM on a Sunday morning awhile back, but that kind of stuff is fairly isolated.

I'm fortunate in that I work armed, but I'm limited to a 38 in the city. At the end of the shift, I take off my uniform and my 38, put on shorts, a Hawaiian shirt, and a 45ACP. THEN I feel safe!

Papajohn
 
Just relax and be prepared.

I live just across the Big Muddy from HB and must agree with his solution. Laclede's Landing can be a particularly nasty place to be late night, although it's been improving a bit lately. Maybe the bad guys are running out of ammo. :)
 
Downtown Los Angeles can be a scary place. In 1984, an android from the future drove a truck right through the front of a police station. He was well armed with modern weapons, and if I recall correctly, he killed just about everyone in there.

Can't wait for T4/Salvation!!! And the Sarah Connor Chronicles start again on Sep 8th...
 
Ma
terDei:

You and I have a different definition of "reasonably safe".

Houston had at least 448 home invasions during 2005.

I don't have figures for the last couple years.


The Houston metropolitan area covers a vast amount of real estate and like I pointed out earlier can vary widely in character from one block to the next. Those numbers you quote mean nothing without being put into context.

For example, Sharpstown had 20,000 crimes total in June, while Fondren Gardens had 458 in the same month. Fondren Gardens had 59 robberies, 4 rapes, 3 murders and 0 negligent manslaughter. By contrast, Sharpstown (AKA Shots-town) had 3126 robberies. 186 rapes, 74 murders and 2 negligent manslaughters. That's just one month.

http://houstoncrimemaps.com/
 
What's unsafe to some...

I live in Queens N.Y. fairly close to south Jamaica (Fitty Cent's old "hood") and work in Bushwick Brooklyn very close to Bedstuy with Biggie Smalls and Jay Z's Marcy Projects. I really don't consider either unsafe at all. I routinely go to bars at night in Queens or get out of work late at night and stop off at the local bodega for a drink without a problem in 29 years. I posted regarding use of a gun for self defense that the only time I needed to was in Newburgh N.Y. not NYC. I will admit I have been in a lot of fights, and yes lots of people with weapons of all sorts but I never really felt unsafe, It could be handled if you kept your head on.



I am in the process of moving to Pennsylvania and am know fearing for my safety. I can handle Bloods and Latin Kings no problem but theirs coyotes and snakes in the woods and bobcats have been sighted by the area. I don't mean to sound like i'm joking. Ignore the gangs and your fine, a stong presence gets you out of most other situations in my area and if it all fails swing for the jaw and see what happens but who knows about snakes and the rest. It just all depends what your expieriences are.
 
gym:

New york crime stats are total bullcrap, if they documented the cases that I heard about alone they would be off the grid. And the NY press has their own agenda, none of which is to give you the facts.

Quite right. I've been saying that all along. Possibly true with other big cities as well but can't say for sure? As for NYC, my 20 years in the NYPD is my documentation.
Incidentially, you mentioned the Joel Steinberg case. I was on duty when it happened and worked the case. Perhaps I knew your friend?
 
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I survived on "bad" attitude.

I have lived in Portland Oregon for over twenty years, and things were bad. It's better now that we have mandatory minimum sentencing for violent crimes---crime goes down when a large percentage of the criminals are locked up!

All during the early 1990's Portland had the highest per-capita rate of violent crime in the country. Crack cocaine ruled for a while, then meth took over, and heroin is on the comeback amongst stupid teenagers. The large population of homeless street-thugs will do anything for drug money. The city looks pretty by day, and largely deserted at night.

I lived in a neighborhood widely known as "Felony Flats". One night, some meth-head actually tried to steal my huge male Doberman from the yard! I just smiled and went back to sleep.......................elsullo :D
 
The town I live in has had like one violent crime since I moved here in '99, a guy who committed an armed robbery of a sportscard shop, plus one creepy guy who was molesting mentally handicapped kids as part of his "religion". The former was shot dead by the cops, the latter is up under the state prison. I'm about as safe here as I could be anywhere in the USA.

On the other hand, I"m from Chicago. I'm from the Southeast side. When I was growing up, we had bars on the front and back door and back windows and a steel prop rod against the front door to deter home invasions. These days you pretty much can't go to a public event without somebody getting shot there. On one recent weekend, in excess of 30 people were shot. This is puzzling since they have a handgun BAN which the Mayor says protects the public and the police. The police department is little better than a criminal gang in itself that's committed more crimes in the last two years than my town's cops have probably committed since the city was incorporated. I visit once a year and feel uneasy the whole time I'm there. Of course I'm permitted no means of self-defense AT ALL. I couldn't have any even if I lived there. I don't trust the people or the police. I get in and get out.
 
Yeah, or with Detroit with, oh, a dozen or so.
When I was in college in the '70s, I had a friend who was from Detroit. He said that going into or leaving Detroit, you needed to watch your speed or you'd be ticketed by the state cops, but inside of Detroit you could go 100mph because they'd laid off so many cops, there was nobody to stop you.
 
I live up to the North in Canada, it a humor filled city name of Regina,SK. In Canada, my city currently tops all the crime lists, we came in 1st place for Break & Enters, also Stolen Cars, Sexual Assaults, and Rapes. We have 5 major gangs within the city who have increased the frequency of drive by shootings and a few stabbings every week. Don't get me wrong though, it's all contained within 1 neighborhood of the city, our pop. is 200,000, which brings up another 1st for us, we have the highest murder rate in Canada.

And here's the kicker, Canada has no Concealed Carry permits, only the cops can carry handguns, or Brinks guards! We can own guns up here though, I personally own a S&W M&P in 40, and a Sabre Defence M4 with a 11 inch barrel, a Savage for varminting as well. We just can't carry concealed firearms which stinks, it just means more people get stabbed up here than shot.
 
Here's one example of an incident out in The Butte west of Palmer. Some punks in the rathole I was living in at the time were out back shooting a .22 and a 9mm after midnight, drunk and acting like idiots. They were males, all in late teens/early 20's. The cops don't even like venturing into that area so there's not much point in calling them. My neighbor, a wild looking sourdough, was apparently also annoyed, because she walked outside and unleashed a rapid string of 30 from her AK clone! The boys fled in terror and never made trouble after that.
 
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