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Anyone Bought Sub 2000 in Michigan?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by thunder173, Dec 15, 2009.

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  1. thunder173

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    Talking with my LGS today to check a price on a Keltec Sub 2000 Carbine. Was told they are not approved for sale in the state of Michigan. Anybody in this forum from Michigan who HAS bought one here?? Contacted Keltec and they gave me zip info. Very dissappointed in that.

    If anyone has purchased one here..give me a shout please. Am interested in buying one. Thanx
     
  2. eight433

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    hmmm i dunno. I have been searching up and down but have not found one. On the other hand, no dealer has told me they were not permitted though!
     
  3. highorder

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    You were told wrong.

    The sub 200 has always been available in Michigan.
    We sold plenty of them when I worked behind the counter in Kalamazoo.

    FYI, they are treated as pistols.

    Reference thread
     
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    Thanx folks,...kinda figured that was the case. Think I'll contact that gun store that told me they couldn't sell them again, and see whats up. I have bought a lot of lead and iron from them.
     
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    I thought you couldnt have a stock on a pistol, wouldnt that make it a SBR? We cant have SBRs in Michigan :( It has a 16in barrel, is it 30oal?
     
  6. General Geoff

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    It's not considered an SBR by federal standards. It has a 16" barrel, and a 29" overall length.
     
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    It is a rifle, plain ans simple. A folding carbine to be exact but a rifle none the less.
     
  8. X-Rap

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    If they can sell a Handi they should be able to sell a Sub 2000.
     
  9. General Geoff

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    Not according to Michigan.

     
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    im confused if you cant have these guns. how does uncle ted have automatic mp5's m16's etc...
     
  11. X-Rap

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    The gun won't operate when folded.
     
  12. sv51macross

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    @chevyforlife21

    What do you mean? Michiganders owning shorter-than-30" rifles?

    As for Ted Nugent, he's either rich enough to be able to afford $10,000+ each for pre-1986 NFA-registered machine guns, or owned them prior to the cessation of new-MG registration. It is legal to own MG's, but as mentioned, the only ones that are legally transferable (with the $200 tax stamp of course) are old and substantially few, so prices are rediculous.
     
  13. General Geoff

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    The Sub2000 is under 30" even when not folded, and fully operable.
     
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    Gotcha, to bad for the Michiganders. Heck NYS even blesses them. I guess I was in violation traveling through MI.
    I really need to stay west of the Missouri and away from the left coast.



    Mother Gue The Rocky Mountains is the Marrow of the world.
     
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    Probably not, it's still legal; just considered a pistol.
     
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    Traveling back and forth to NYS I figured that was my best bet as far as getting to and from my truck without a scene. That and lucky I had some 10 rd mags.
     
  17. thunder173

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    Thanx to all for your comments. I really don't give a rip if it's classified as a rifle or a pistol...I'll get a permit to purchase if need be, though I do have a CCW,...it being legally a pistol actually HAS some inherent advantages that I can see. My question was,..and still is,..

    Has anyone actually purchased one here in the state of Michigan??
     
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    Purchased, no.

    Sold, yes.

    You do not need a Purchase Permit, as you have a CCW (as you know)
    You will find one, do the 4473 dance, get NICS'd, and you're all set.

    Finding one is the tough part!
     
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    Note the M1 Carbine with paratrooper stock is operable when folded, and is a pistol in MI. If you have a CCW, you can conceal carry it if you can figure out how to conceal it.
    So are some of the SU-16 models.
     
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    And Uncle Nuge keeps most of his fun stuff in Texas these days... ;)
     
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