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Anyone buy a GUN SAFE from WALMART.com

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 8200rpm, May 7, 2007.

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  1. 8200rpm

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    Sentry G4211 14-Gun Safe at Walmart.com

    Price looks good ($389.49) and the freight ($100) is cheaper than what the moving service charges at the local gun shop.

    Any one care to share their experience buying a gun safe from Walmart.com???

    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4324485

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    I wish I had a pick up truck. I could borrow one from someone, but by the time I pick up the truck, fill it up with gas, buy a six pack and pizza for the sucker who's gonna throw out his back helping me, and find a dolly, paying freight doesn't seem so bad.:uhoh:
     
  2. thumper723

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    Check on WHERE the freight company will put it..

    Many will take it to/in your door, if that far. Therefore, you still need to get a dolly and some help.
     
  3. Creeping Incrementalism

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    My friend bought the 5-gun version of that safe from Wal-Mart online a month ago. They dropped it off on his front porch (on a 2nd story condo) pretty quickly after he ordered it. It installed just fine. The 5-gun is a lot less substantial, and he thinks someone could get it open just by using a pry bar and to tear through it, but it would make a lot of noise and would be pretty tough.
     
  4. sierrabravo45

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    How much are your guns worth that you are putting in them????

    If you have a Ruger 10/22 and a Remington 870; Go for it.

    If you have a Purdy and Holland & Holland I would not buy it.

    Think about how much money you will be putting in the safe, ie: jewelry, guns etc. You can easily get over a few grand. Buying a cheap safe is pretty easy to get into.


    Just my .02.
     
  5. 1BLINDREF

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    Looks like it'll keep the honest people out :rolleyes:
    Remember - you get what you pay for. It dosen't make sense to keep $4000 worth of guns in a $300 safe. JMHO :)
     
  6. Ala Dan

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    Nope

    I bought my Liberty Colonial series RSC from my employer; as I refuse too
    give Wally World any of my business, due to their stance on firearms~! :cuss:
     
  7. distra

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    I picked one up at Home Depot for $360 and loaded it into the back of my truck. The safe is fine, but it will not keep out a determined thief. Of course, a determined thief will get into a $2000+ safe as well. I bolted mine to the floor and wall so as to deter just picking it up and walking off. I think this safe works fine for my needs, keeping young unsupervised hands off the goods. Some folks treat safes as furniture and that's fine, there are some beautiful safes out there that I'd love to have in my house. The reality is I could not justify spending the extra money. My $0.02 for what it's worth.
     
  8. Im283

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    you could rent a truck from U-haul a lot cheaper than $100. That safe does not look like it would be that hard to move. Mine weighed 400 lbs empty and I only needed help rocking it back when I moved it with a simple two wheeler.
    The one pictured looks like it could be moved by one person and a two wheeler.

    Spend the difference on ammo or upgrade the safe.
     
  9. 8200rpm

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    I'm not concern about Catherine Zeta Jones doing a Mission Impossible type infiltration into my apartment to steal $5000 worth of guns.:scrutiny: What are the chances?

    It's the smash and grab meth addicts, local teenaged delinquents, and gang members from out of town who are looking for easy break-ins that I'm concerned with. This kind of of act is more likely. Plus, my wife is currently incubating our first child.

    A $400, 300 lb safe from walmart is sure better than a sliding closet door with all the firearms placed neatly in a stack of individual hardcases for easy carry.:uhoh:

    Just wondering if anyone has bought a safe from Walmart.com. That's all. Not trying to replicate Fort Knox Bullion Depository.
     
  10. arjppj

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    if you have a Dick's Sporting goods near you, check out their Stack-ons. They have nice 16/23 gun capacity firesafes that are pretty heavy and have bolts on all four sides of the door, so it would take Catherine Zeta to crack them open.
     
  11. candr44

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    I bought the 10 gun version of that safe. Walmart usually stocks up on safes during hunting season and then puts them on clearance after Christmas. I got two safes for a $100 below the regular price of each one just by waiting for the clearance price. Sam's Club also has safes.

    There are a lot better safes out there but I bought mine mainly to keep small kids away from my guns.
     
  12. renegade1alpha

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    I own one and its a pretty nice safe. Its not fire proof, so if there is a fire your guns will not survive if the safe is exposed for a period of time. As far as someone stealing it then all you need to do is bolt it to your floor (bolts are provided with it when you buy it) and you need not worry about it. As far as prying it open with a pry bar, it would be pretty damn tough to do, especially if it were one person or a couple of kids.

    As sierrabravo45 said, if you own really expensive guns, then invest in something that is fireproof and heavier. Otherwise it will be a fine safe.
     
  13. thexrayboy

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    I bought one of those from the local Wally world 3-4 years ago. Paid about 250 for it then. They had one of their high school gorillas help me hoist it into the back of the truck. Took it home and unloaded it myself and dolly'ed it into my office. Not to hard to move by myself. That fact would tend to make this one easier to steal than some others. I use mine to store my more inexpensive guns such as the mosins, the CAI knockoffs and the Mossbergs.
    I also keep a crap load of ammo in it to make it heavier and harder to move.


    Only you can decide how much to spend to secure your arms. As has been stated no safe will stop a determined thief but the better ones will slow em down. As I have a higher end, better built safe for my ARs etc and handguns
    this one works well for me for what I keep in it. With safes the aphorism
    "you get what you pay for" is a good guideline.
     
  14. eng23ine

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    I just(2 weeks ago) bought a Stack-on brand safe from Dick's sporting goods.
    It's a 24 gun convertible, fire rated at 1400F for 30 min, with 3 passive and 5 active locking bolts.
    weight= 492lbs
    Price= $499.97.

    It was installed using 2 guys, a set of handtrucks, and a sheet of 3\4 plywood.
     
  15. wooderson

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    Lowe's sells a similar Sentry model that's configurable to give you more handgun room.

    I get the arguments about heavier and more expensive safes, but if you live in a condo/townhome/apartment/mobile home/cardboard box there just aren't that many good safe options (and even fewer if you need more handgun space than rifle). Bass Pro sells a Redhead cube that I liked until no one in the store could get it open because it has a four-number dial.

    These seem to be capable of doing a fair job at discouragement and safety for a decent price.
     
  16. lionking

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    not talking about the brand and quality but I agree the more you have better to have quality safe,but I have a big ,very heavy safe and I just sold my house and moved and can tell you it was a pain in the a** since I had no one to help me load it.In fact I paid a safe company to help me load it in the Uhaul and then my friends,since I have some where I'm now...it took 5 of us to unlaod it.

    My last house had double doors so it was easy to get in the house but forget about putting it in a bedroom.Don't know if my next house will have decent sized door to get it in.Id rather have it in a backroom also so when people I might not know too well are in my house "outta sight outta mind" you know...

    So I can understand and I think I also in the future will get smaller ,easier to move safes,even if I have to get 2 or 3 to fit what would go in a bigger one.

    A guy I use to work with,he was a deliquent so he says before he got married with kids and straightened up.We got into a conversation on day about home robbery because I told him I was worried about my guitars,didn't mention guns...

    but he said that back in New York he did a couple B&E's,he said that usually big stuff is passed over,its about speed and what you can stuff in your pants like jewelry.money or maybe a handgun.He said that most of the time,things big like guitars,rifles and such are bypassed.

    I mentioned I had a safe "for the guitars".He said they would probably look at it,curse at it because of wondering whats inside but unless truely motivated and had lots of time,would move on.He did say though that once they saw it,it might be targeted for next time since it was discovered.

    kinda made sense to me what he said.

    though in this day and age,its been known to happen that they'll just smash thru your door while you are at home and strong arm you,all bets are off then unless you are quicker and with a weapon ready.
     
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    I've got the truck, a son stupid enough to think he could do it all by himself ,and the refrigerator dolly.
    We could just sit back and eat the pizza and drink the beer if you live in Orlando
     
  18. CB900F

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    Fella's;

    I'm sorry to say, but it's true, that Butthead & Beavis can do the typical RSC in well under 5 minutes if they have any knowledge about how to go about it at all.

    As for fire ratings, unless you know exactly what the test parameters for your specific container were, any advertising on the subject is just about worthless. IMHO the only test worth paying any attention to is the U.L. 1 hour fire standard.

    For those who don't know my handle by now, I am a professional locksmith who specializes in safe sales.

    900F
     
  19. Creeping Incrementalism

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    Maybe some punk could do it if he had any knowledge of it, but how many really do? Everything I know about burglars says that 90% only go through safes that are unlocked, and whatever else in the house they can grab in 15 minutes. As someone else mentioned, if any but the best burglar saw it, the worst they could do is make a guess if it seemed worth it, then try to find one of the few people that know anything about getting into safes, and try a break-in at a later date. For example, on the Discovery Channel's It Takes a Thief, in the episode when the ex-professional burglar found a fast car he wanted in the garage that wouldn't start, he said back in the day he would have tried to come back at a later date with a mechanic to fix it so he could drive off in it.

    I'm sure you must have some good stories about safe cracking. One I heard about was when the CIA in some third-world country got the entire staff of a very small Soviet embassy to attend a dinner at the American one, paid the local security guard to walk off, and then used plastic explosives to gain access to the safe.
     
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    My el-cheapo RSC ^above^ IS UL fire rated, or at least the sticker said so.
     
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    If you are really worried about someone breaking into your safe, just set up some CCTV recorder, and put a gps tracker into a hollow plastic stock. Then when someone steals all of your guns you will have video evidence and you will know where your guns are (well atleast the one with the GPS).
     
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    I've not purchased from Walmart.com, but I wouldn't have any problems doing so.

    The difference between a $400 RSC (a "gun safe") and $1,400 RSC are minimal. In retrospect, I should have purchased this RSC rather than my $1,400 Cannon CL23 RSC. Essentially the same protection, but several hundred dollars difference.

    As CB900F says, any RSC could be breached in a matter of minutes with simple tools. They can deter thieves, but anyone with a few minutes and basic hand tools could gain access to the contents.

    All other things being equal, I'd rather purchase the Sentry RSC and a monitored burglar/fire alarm for the residence than a fancier RSC with the same protection. Having the alarm get the cavalry on their way will reduce the probability of a successful theft or fire damage much more than a fancier RSC will.

    Now, if I had any machineguns, super-expensive shotguns (like the $20,000 Perazzi's), or other particularly valuable items, I'd probably end up getting the AMSEC RF6528 TL-30 rated gun safe, or some other suitably rated actual safe.

    So are many things today. Stack-On products are made in China. Cannon's "Patriot" series are made in Korea. That doesn't necessarily mean they're of poor quality. They're probably not the best-made things, but for low-to-midrange RSCs you'll find that they're almost all imported.
     
  23. Ala Dan

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    = Residential Security Container~! ;) (for those that didn't know) :banghead:
     
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    where are you at? I don't mind lending a hand.
    Most of them weigh under 500 lbs, even the fire safes. If you can't dead lift 250 then I'll get a dolly.

    I've got a 1/2 ton Nissan Titan with a bed that can easily handle even the heaviest gun safe.

    let me know if I can help.
     
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