Anyone else here who doesn't own AND doesn't want a polymer framed pistol?

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"...If you need more than 9 shots of .45, your choice of weapon is the least of your problems..."

I have been shooting for 40yrs, and have been a long time fan of all things Browning...Particularly the 1911 and the HiPower.
When I started looking for a compact 45 for CCW, I found the Glock 30...Incredibly accurate. Light weight. reliable with JHP or FMJ...and 10rds.
I found mine for sale locally. Used, like new with 4 magazines, night sights and a galco royal guard IWB...for what I would have paid for an entry level 1911 compact.
Shooting that Glock 30 brought me back into the Glock fold...I quickly decided a 9mm Glock would give me some cheaper trigger time, and traded a Beretta 92FS for a Glock 17...I liked the Beretta a lot, but there is no doubt in my mind which one I would rather carry to war.
 
I do carry a 1911 every day (4 in. barrel). Due to it's thin grip I can actually conceal it better than my small frame, 5-shot, 2 in. barrel Ruger revolver.
 
No don't own one, probably never will. Every one I've ever picked up, handled , tried to get the feel of... felt cheap. Even the most expensive ones. For me there so much tactile feed back from the gun that it's a really large part of why I like to shoot.

BUT.. if I carried, a polymer pistol would definitely be in contention, for many reasons.
 
How many of you that "would never buy a polymer gun" think of guns as only tools?

Maybe if I got into pistols decades ago when they were mostly steel, and didn't want to learn or get used to the different feel/balance of a polymer pistol, then I would be just like some people on this thread who "would never buy a polymer gun", maybe, even though I doubt it since I never had an issue buying a steel, aluminum, or polymer pistol. But I just started a little more than five years ago, and I can't see myself being "against" any newer material that could be considered lighter, more resistant to the elements, and just as (or maybe more) durable as steel, while at the same time, being cheaper. There is a reason that polymer took-off.

Pilot, when I see someone say "I will never buy a polymer gun", I can guess their age as well, though that is not really an insult now is it?

I think newer shooters see guns more as tools, where more seasoned shooters see them as something more, though I could be wrong.
 
I should also say that I have certain preferances in pistols, but frame material is close to the bottom of that list. I have no problems with other people having different preferances.
 
While I prefer all steel, I am not completely diametrically opposed to polymer framed guns. I've had my share, jut have not found the "it" polymer gun for me. As I said in a previous reply, the 1911 platform just works for me.

As far as polymer guns go, I'd love to try out the 'new' Wilson Combat Spec Ops 9. I just can't see spending close to $2,000 on a polymer framed gun.
 
I have a 1911 and it is my favorite gun by far. Beautiful and well-crafted, sentimental and esteemed. It exudes class in every way.

But I own two polymers - an XD and an LCP.

They don't excite me. What they do do is work. Flawlessly. And are affordable. And are lightweight. And I have nary a care if they get scratched or marred in some way. And for these reasons I own them with no shame or regrets.
 
amd, I'm running a cz rami
9+1 .40. I still say if you need that much ammo, you gun is the least of your probs.... You need more people on your side ;)
 
I love my 1911s. Some people have to be shown that weight and size are not bad things when you are trying to put lead on target fast (that is what its all about). There seems to be too much worship at the alter of light weight and high capacity. I can't tell you how many insufferable lectures i have received from glockheads who cant seem to hit anything. That being said I do like my Sa Xd 40. Nice ergos, almost decent trigger for combat tupperware and a grip safety. Just a nice package. Ultimately you have to be confident that the gun you choose is the right one for you and that you are selecting with both eyes open, not following fad or tradition blindly.
 
I just got rid of my last one and while I say I don't want another, I still think there might be room in the safe for a LEO Glock trade-in.
 
Had 2-Glocks, traded mine for SP101,, and am now working on wife to trade hers for LCR or something similar.
The Glock was fun to shoot,reliable as hell,you could feed that thing assorted ammo and it never hiccuped (once maybe,un-seated primer on factory ammo) but the revolvers FEEL better in my paws,and simple is better in my simple mind,kinda like fake-boobies,They LOOK real good but when handled FEEL like mushy lump under skin,and the things they are attached to usually have "issues" anyway, I'll stick to the wheel-guns and just make sure every shot counts,,
 
I never got excited about poly guns.
The poly guns are not meaningfully lighter than S&Ws with alloy frames. The S&Ws are just as reliable and these days generally cheaper than most SIGs and certainly H&Ks.

A Browning Hi Power with some different springs and removing the mag disconnect has a great trigger pull, accuracy and reliability. I never saw the need to replace it. Besides none of the poly guns can compare for looks and feel.

The S&Ws and BHPs may be out of fashion, but the poly guns don's offer any advantages that would cause me to replace the S&Ws or BHPs.
 
"...If you need more than 9 shots of .45, your choice of weapon is the least of your problems..."
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I've never liked that statement, and you would never catch me saying that even when I carried a 1911. I've never talked to anyone who has been on a two way range that complained of having too many rounds. Not only that, 45 is still an underpowered pistol round. You don't get stopping power until you pick up a rifle or a ridiculously large bore wheel gun.

I shot many poly framed pistols over the years and thought I disliked them. Then I put more than 100 rounds downrange after I bought a glock. Since then, the glock 19 has made my all time favorite list right next to a well worn, blued colt government. Ugly, cold, impersonal and what seems like non-existent ergonomics...but man can you run that gun hard once you adjust to it. I've since tried other plastics (XDM and m&p), but none have been keepers like the 19. I just love it. I'm even ashamed to admit it, but my 1911 carry piece sits in the safe and the glock follows me around on my hip. :eek:
 
I have three glocks, 27, 23, and an issued 22. I owe my life to the 23 and good training. That being said, I just purchased a Sig P6 and am half way to owning a P229 Enhanced Elite. I think there are many quality firearmes out there polymer or not. Different strokes for different folks. I like both.
 
I have only one polly pistol its a Star Ultrastar, it does not feel like a polly in your hands though ,no flexing, i like that, and i really like this pistol. But im still more of a steel/alloy guy my self.
 
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I'm certainly not in the anti-polymer camp. I have a mixture of poly and metal.

What I'd really like to know - from those making the "crummy trigger" statements - is ... What is the actual impact of said "crummy trigger" on your shooting?

Personally, I can shoot my "crummy triggered" polymer guns just as accurately as my higher end 1911's and DA/SA guns. I am by far the weakest link in the chain when it comes to accuracy. Not that I'm a slouch when it comes to accuracy - just that a little bit of creep in the trigger doesn't suddenly widen my shot groups by any significant amount.

Moreover, if you're purchasing a gun for self-defense, I would maintain that there is absolutely no way you will notice the difference between the trigger of a striker-fired weapon and a weapon with a hammer in a SD situation. Your adrenaline will be too high. You will be too threat focused. A slight difference in the trigger of your weapon will be the last of things potentially making you miss your target.
 
No offense, 1858, but i think that handle reflects your preference here. I'm not trying to insult anyone here but for practical use i think most people who dislike polymer do so out of traditionalism. There may be instances where more weight is of benefit but they are few and far between. There is no question that polymer guns have proven their reliability and durability time and time again. I can see people being wary of striker fired, as i was once, but it also has proven itselt to be completely safe and reliable. However, the best polymer hand guns, or hand guns period IMO, are made by HK and they have hammers.
 
ForumSurfer said:
I've never liked that statement, and you would never catch me saying that even when I carried a 1911. I've never talked to anyone who has been on a two way range that complained of having too many rounds. Not only that, 45 is still an underpowered pistol round. You don't get stopping power until you pick up a rifle or a ridiculously large bore wheel gun.

I shot many poly framed pistols over the years and thought I disliked them. Then I put more than 100 rounds downrange after I bought a glock. Since then, the glock 19 has made my all time favorite list right next to a well worn, blued colt government. Ugly, cold, impersonal and what seems like non-existent ergonomics...but man can you run that gun hard once you adjust to it. I've since tried other plastics (XDM and m&p), but none have been keepers like the 19. I just love it. I'm even ashamed to admit it, but my 1911 carry piece sits in the safe and the glock follows me around on my hip. :eek:
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Thank you forumsurfer for your comments on the .45 quote that someone always has to trot out in a discussion about .45 vs. anything else. It would be interesting to know how many people have said that while also packing an extra magazine or two, as a lot of .45 packers do.
 
Steel, aluminum and polymer are all great. I love the heft of an all steel pistol. I also love the durability and corrosion resistance of aluminum and polymer. I think some fellas on here just like what they like and are products of the times in which they fell in love with the implements of their hobby.
 
The choice to buy my M&P (or the choice to buy any polymer) was based purely on not wanting an all metal gun subjected to the varied excretia my children are so very skilled at exuding and applying.

I'll go to heavy metal again once the smallest is too big for "up Daddy!"
 
Nushif said:
...Not for me....have never seen an engraved polymer gun that looked classy.
I hate to say it ... I rarely see all steel guns that are classy when they're engraved.
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If you don't find a fully engraved Browning High Power classy....engraving may not be your thing.
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It's probably not, then.

There's a term for that in German ... it's called "Schnoerkel." Roughly, and I do mean roughly it translates to "busy."

Have very, very rarely seen engravings that don't look it.
 
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