EIB0879
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Oh that's nice! Yours looks well loved!
I haven't used it as much. Most places I hunt I can use a rifle but I wanted this for places that I can't use a rifle.
Anyone else rocking a Remington 870 12ga with a fully rifled barrel?
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I haven't used it as much. Most places I hunt I can use a rifle but I wanted this for places that I can't use a rifle.
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45/30-06OKIE
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Hmm the receiver just looks like it has lots of handling wear from carrying it a lot. I'm not disparaging your 870, just thinking out loud lol!
earlthegoat2
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Is that the Superslug with the pinned barrel? The stock and forend are from the era when there was an 870 Special Purpose Superslug with the pinned barrel.
EIB0879
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Hmm the receiver just looks like it has lots of handling wear from carrying it a lot. I'm not disparaging your 870, just thinking out loud lol!
I think that is bad light but I did use it for turkey and hog for several years before I started using it for deer.
EIB0879
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Nope. I bought a 870 express, replaced the stock with the one seen, and then added the Mossberg barrel later. The Mossberg barrel was less than $150 on sale from the Mossberg store. It is a heavier barrel and helps mitigate muzzle jump.
Steve51
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No. I have not seen the Winchester Deer Season slugs. I still have 4 boxes of the Remington 1 oz Copper Solid Hollow Point Magnum Sabot Slugs. The box lists them at 1550 fps.
earlthegoat2
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That is a proven load.
Rifled bores and foster slugs.............my 835 fully rifled shot a couple versions of sabot (2 3/4 and 3") like total crap.
Only thing it did like, was 3" fosters (WW).
Think the 3.5" chamber was causing the issue w others.
Rifled bores, may foul faster with foster slugs. Plastic fouling from sabots I hear is a thing too.
Dunno how many before that affects accuracy.
I cleaned my stuff often (tested for proper interval).
Also bought my slugs from one lot #, 10 boxes at a time.
Not cheap, but one less thing to worry about.
Only thing it did like, was 3" fosters (WW).
Think the 3.5" chamber was causing the issue w others.
Rifled bores, may foul faster with foster slugs. Plastic fouling from sabots I hear is a thing too.
Dunno how many before that affects accuracy.
I cleaned my stuff often (tested for proper interval).
Also bought my slugs from one lot #, 10 boxes at a time.
Not cheap, but one less thing to worry about.
My rifled 870s (two of em) w some work, did well at 100 yds 1.5" stuff.
I don't miss bench testing deer slugs.
As one gets tenderized form and followthrough, even focus.......tends to erode.
Groups open.
If you can shoot a slug gun well, rifles should be a piece of cake.
I don't miss bench testing deer slugs.
As one gets tenderized form and followthrough, even focus.......tends to erode.
Groups open.
If you can shoot a slug gun well, rifles should be a piece of cake.
Knew a guy that built Remington semi autos (1100 and 1187) into rifled bore deer rigs.
Tweaked and tested.
Said they were 200 yard rigs w some form of 3" mag sabot ammo.
In my much more limited experience, I saw dramatic difference in animal reaction (fosters vs a certain sabot).
Deer usually crumpled when shot w sabot.
Of course, deer dont' always follow the script.
But for me and my buds, the technology upgrade in deer slug ammo, was a solid improvement.
Tweaked and tested.
Said they were 200 yard rigs w some form of 3" mag sabot ammo.
In my much more limited experience, I saw dramatic difference in animal reaction (fosters vs a certain sabot).
Deer usually crumpled when shot w sabot.
Of course, deer dont' always follow the script.
But for me and my buds, the technology upgrade in deer slug ammo, was a solid improvement.
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Yeah it's not too bad honestly if you have proper form. As long as you are holding the buttstock tight against your shoulder pocket! Haha. And yes, I have a 6.5 PRC (short mag) and it's easy peasy to shoot with a modest muzzle brake. We actually have our SOT for NFA stuff and are going to Order a SilencerCo Hybrid 46M for testing on a bunch of different guns. Should be fun. I'll be making posts talking about it on the handgun and rifle fourm or the NFA fourm idk which one would be better.
DustyGmt
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I feel the entire advantage of a shotgun is in its versatility, most of which is negated by a rifled barrel. But if you have a spare smoothbore barrel you're set! Getting rifle accuracy and range out of a shotgun is awesome, but I would definitely not opt for a rifled barrel only because buckshot and forster slugs aren't suited to them and there is basically only one application I can think of for a rifled barrel and that's mid to longish range hunting and shotguns are good for so many other things......
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I'm a sucker for weird guns so this one was kind of an impulse buy as I've literally never seen another fully rifled shotgun in my life lol. and plus, you can't beat a classic Remington 870! I do plan on buying a 28in 870 Supermag soon-ish...
RKRCPA
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I have a cantilever barrel for my 870 but could never get accustomed to how high the scope sits. I need to find some sort of comb raiser in order to get a consistent cheek weld.
EIB0879
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The aftermarket thumbhole stock that I have on mine (see earlier pic) has a Monte Carlo cheek piece that helps. It also helps with shooting off the bench (recoil) at least with 2 3/4" slugs.
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My dedicated slug gun is an 11-87 Remington with a 20 inch rifled barrel. It likes Winchester Super Sabot slugs best. Slug ballistic charts only go to 125 yards as they drop like a rock after that so take 200 yard shots with a grain of salt. Mine is pretty accurate to about 70 yards. That's about 200 feet.
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Nice! I shot at about 70 yards as well.
Fine Figure of a Man
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I bought a Hastings rifled barrel for my 870 the first year they were legal for deer in Iowa, late 80's early 90's?. Shot many deer with it. It is very accurate with the right ammo. The original BRI Sabot 1 oz 1350fps are the most accurate I found. Remington accutip 385gr 1850fps are accurate but I have never shot a deer with one. Some foster slugs shoot well and I have never had trouble with barrel leading.
What I cwill say after shooting dozens of deer with them, shotguns and slugs suck for deer hunting IMO. I would much rather take a muzzle loader, and did for many years. Now that Iowa allows a variety of rifle and handgun cartridges, I don't understand why anyone would want to use a shotgun for deer.
What I cwill say after shooting dozens of deer with them, shotguns and slugs suck for deer hunting IMO. I would much rather take a muzzle loader, and did for many years. Now that Iowa allows a variety of rifle and handgun cartridges, I don't understand why anyone would want to use a shotgun for deer.
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I agree
. Centerfire rifles are way better.
Rifled barrels are great, but you really don't need them per se. An rifled extended choke will work just fine. It's been shown that you just need a few inches of rifling at the muzzle. BUT for all barrels, take a slug out of a cartridge and drop down the bore. The slug or sabot has to hang up somewhere in the barrel to be accurate. By hanging up, it will show that a complete cartridge shot will have the slug or sabot engage the rifling as it travels down the barrel. There are differences in rifled shotgun barrels that need to be tested.
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Why not just use rifled forster slugs? Never done slugs so just askin
Foster slugs don't always do the trick. If they drop through without contacting the barrel, they won't spin and the shot will "go wild". Using Cutts Compensators on a Model 11 back in the 1960s, I found out the hard way that shooting an open cylinder did nothing for the slug. But shooting improved (choke) conpensator at 60 yards and I could hit a full size paper plate 3 out of 4 times. It was enough to put meat in the freezer.
I have shot enough factory Foster, TruBall, Lyman home cast Foster and sabot, sabot from five different manufacturers plus Brennekes to consider myself……,..somewhat experienced plus sore.
Rifled barrels were intended for sabot slugs but may shoot a foster adequately out to sixty or so yards. Smooth bore barrels are best with Fosters and will show a preference for one brand over another. Most factory smooth bore slug barrels were imp cyl and some cylinder. Brennekes have done fine in my smoothnoreand select rifled barrels. Fed TruBall, ditto. Rifled choke tubes are a joke.
Barrels tested and hunted with since about 1960 include Ithaca Deerslayer, REM riot and REM slug. Hastings rifled. Savage 220 and 212 shotguns. 870, 1100 plus Savage 24.
Most will be gathering dust in the future now that I can use single shot, straight wall cartridge guns here. So, now to see which shoots best out of my three, Henry357, CVA Scout 44 or NEF 45-70.
My best results,strangely enough,with smooth bores was with mod choke.
Shot a five shot group with a Mossberg 20 ga rifled (now son number two’s) at fifty yards with bulk pack Fosters. All five were on the paper. Followed up with five from my 45 Colt Blackhawk and got a centered 2” group
Rifled barrels were intended for sabot slugs but may shoot a foster adequately out to sixty or so yards. Smooth bore barrels are best with Fosters and will show a preference for one brand over another. Most factory smooth bore slug barrels were imp cyl and some cylinder. Brennekes have done fine in my smoothnoreand select rifled barrels. Fed TruBall, ditto. Rifled choke tubes are a joke.
Barrels tested and hunted with since about 1960 include Ithaca Deerslayer, REM riot and REM slug. Hastings rifled. Savage 220 and 212 shotguns. 870, 1100 plus Savage 24.
Most will be gathering dust in the future now that I can use single shot, straight wall cartridge guns here. So, now to see which shoots best out of my three, Henry357, CVA Scout 44 or NEF 45-70.
My best results,strangely enough,with smooth bores was with mod choke.
Shot a five shot group with a Mossberg 20 ga rifled (now son number two’s) at fifty yards with bulk pack Fosters. All five were on the paper. Followed up with five from my 45 Colt Blackhawk and got a centered 2” group
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All that proves is that you are an expert with YOUR GUNS, but not with mine. It's nice that you have followed my advice, whether you intended to or not. We do share somethings in common, like a Rem. Model 11, Rem 870, and Savage 220. You want to shoot a single shot?? Try my Lyman GPR in .54 cal. I hit the X ring several times at 50 meters.
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