anyone have a Sig p238 that IS NOT a lemon?

[Joker19]

Try

Berreta Tomcat! Try Kel Tec P3AT! Try NAA! Many pocket guns have had no recalls! Maybe your memory is fading.

 

[AK103K]

One thing about the internet is that alot of people will buy a P238 and be happy with it and thats it, then you get those that sometimes have really big mouths and just start bashing it and that is all you hear about it.

So those of us that had trouble with them arent allowed to respond in the negative to questions asked about them? Is that what your saying?

Tell you what, lets swap, and then we'll see just how big your mouth is.

 

[Jolly Rogers]

I think the post you quoted is meaning that there are thousands of owners of P238s that shoot them with no troubles and don't see the need to post to this fact.
Owners that aren't satisfied with the product are MUCH more apt to post on the various fora about their issues.
If yours is a lemon, so be it, and post to that effect. Do Not Condemn the guns that aren't.
I have also seen several posts from owners that have had issues with their Sigs and had them resolved. However the post to announce the proper function is short and only once posted. Following tens of posts complaining about the malfunction. Then I have seen the same owner still jumping on the complaint band wagon even after their problem is solved... :banghead:
Joe

 

[kokapelli]

Since I carry a .380 as a backup I have to be able to count on it when needed and I really do not like Sig Sauers intro with this. You should not have to get a new flat recoil spring, it should have had one in the first place (what they never shot this gun?) You should not have to send it back to have it tuned up, it should have been so in the first place. You should not have to order new magazines that work, the one that came with it should have! All in all it is a pretty unreliable gun that will fill the needs of those that do not depend on it every day of thier lives. To tell you the truth my backup has been and still will be the Kel Tec P3AT (not one FTF and or FTE in thousands of qualifying shots.) Pretty disappointing gun and all that I work with want nothing to do with it!

I don't have the flat recoil springs and I have three different brands of magazines and have not a had a single problem.

 

[AK103K]

Owners that aren't satisfied with the product are MUCH more apt to post on the various fora about their issues.
If yours is a lemon, so be it, and post to that effect. Do Not Condemn the guns that aren't.

I agree, people with problems are probably more apt to post, and they also have a right to post that they did have troubles, as they did. They dont fall into the "I heard" groups, who seem to have an agenda all their own, for whatever reason.

Then again, you have the people who have them, who seem to get annoyed if someone has a different experience with "their" favorite gun, and feels the need to attack them like its their fault they had troubles, and not the guns.

When someone asks if any one had problems, they asked the question. Dont get mad, if someone answers with an opposing view, especially if they had trouble, hey, it happens. Their answer is by no means void because you didnt and dont agree.

Even down the road if they get it fixed, just becasue it was fixed, doesnt mean now that all the previous aggravation and problems never existed. It also doesnt mean the problem was necessarily corrected. There have been a number of people who have sent them back multiple times with no luck. Its bad enough it went back once, and as far as Im concerned, thats all any of them get, is one chance to fix it. Beyond that, if its kept, its a toy, and nothing more.

Hey, Im by no means a SIG basher either, far from it. Ive got a Mosquito and a P250, and neither have ever been a problem, although Im constantly told they should be. Unfortunately for me, SIG number 18, the P238, was my first "lemon". I always had good luck with SIG, and was never a "old school snob", and had old and new guns and liked them all. Ive also said I'd be the first to say there was a problem "if" there was one, and I didnt hesitate to say my P238 was a problem. Why, because it was. No agenda at all, just questions asked and answered, even if you dont like the answer.

 

[Joker19]

All I am saying is

I depend on a firearm for my job and life. I can not feel that either would benefit from one that has as much of a problem as the P238. It simply is not have the dependability I am used to. Not sure if any of you saw the Idaho State Police officer "Junior Gonzales" shot by an escaped prisoner out of Alabama but he returned fire with a S&W .40 and it failed after the 1st round to chamber the second so all guns sometimes have a few problems. The P238 has miles to go before it LE backup capable and this is the opinion of many many in the business. It was hurried through and it is slow to repair. We will see. I carry a Sig P220 and it is the best weapon I have ever used

 

[Ludlow]

P238 Lemon?

IIRC, SIG remedied the early P238's most common teething pains by switching to a slightly heavier slide. That's what I recall anyways. Carry one on my ankle for about 4, maybe 5 months now and it shoots well enough for a belly gun.

P.S. : Been 100% so far with FMJ & Federal HydraShok

 

[27Contender]

If I paid $335 for mine, I might not be as disappointed with it. Helluva a deal.

I feel like I should be charging Sig rent for it, they've had it as long as I have. Not sure I'll ever get to the point where I'd depend on it as a carry gun which was the reason I bought it. Time will tell. I remain skeptimistic.

Guess that makes me a basher.