Anyone have a Speer manual?

[wlkjr]

I have some Xtreme 124 gr. HPs and have been told to load them with info from a Speer manual. I don't have one of those yet, only a Lyman #49.
Have feed issues and think it may be not enough powder. When using 3.6 grains of Titegroup all three of my Glocks function normallly. When using 3.3 grains, the G17 works fine, but he G19 and G26 have problems with the bullet sticking at the feed ramp. My OAL is 1.110. Don't know if I should seat a little shorter to 1.095 or if that would make a difference. I'm thinking maybe to up the load to about 3.4 or 3.5 grains. Trying to keep it soft as possible.
Looking at pictures of my grouping, on second thought, the 3.6 load accuracy is better anyway.

 

[Walkalong]

I shoot those at 1.060 OAL, over 3.9 Grs N320. A WSR or a Fed 100 primer gives almost the same exact velocity. Gives 1050ish FPS from a 5" barrel. Very clean, very accurate, & soft shooting.

I can check Speer 124 Gr data later.

This load appears safe in my guns.

 

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http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/reloading_manual/

 

[jeffreybehr]

My Speer manual #14, with any of their three 124g. bullets and TightGroup, has a starting load of 4.0grains for 1020FPS and a MAX. load of 4.4g. for 1095FPS.

Seems to me that you need to increase the powder charge to at least 4.0g.

OAL is 1.135" with the FMJ RN and 1.120" with the other two bullets.

 

[Rule3]

I concur with the data that jeffery posted above for the Speer bullets. Your load is to light, as to OAL you have to adjust that to your bullet and barrel.

The trouble with TG and high pressure, There is not much wiggle room. So measure/weigh accurately.

However xtreme as with other plated bullets states.

http://www.xtremebullets.com/category-s/1952.htm


Load Info:
- Our Copper Plated Bullets can be run at mid-range jacketed velocities or higher end lead velocities. We do not recommend velocities over 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second) and only a light taper crimp.
Any velocities over 1200 FPS we recommend either our Heavy Plate Concave Base or Hollow Point products for superior accuracy. We do not recommend velocities over 1500 FPS (Feet Per Second) and only a light taper crimp.
- All of our Hard Cast Lead Bullets are approximately 18 on Brinell, our Cowboy lead bullets are approximately 15 on Brinell.

 

[7mmb]

Hodgdon's data for 125gr lead starts at 3.6gr of Titegroup. Jacketed starts at 4.1gr. Up your charges. Buying one of those One Book One Caliber pamphlets for 9mm wouldn't hurt either. I'd start at 4.0gr and work up to Speer's and Hodgdon's max of 4.4gr. The good news is with that small a spread between start and max it won't take too much time or components to find a good load

 

[wlkjr]

3.6 grains of Titegroup seems to work fine in all three Glocks
Here are some pics of 5 shot groups at 12 yards from a rest.
First pic is 3.3 grains Titegroup with an Xtreme 124 gr HP plated

Second pic is 3.6 grains Titegroup with an Xtreme 124 gr HP plated

Third is a Berry 147 grain with 3.3 grains Titegroup