Anyone of you given up on carrying because of restrictive rules and regulations??

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Rules and restrictions are popping up all over the place...
I live in the Puget Sound area (Seattle) and our Mayor has recently introduced a new ban on guns in public parks and city building...

An example of the absurd byzantine rules....I can carry in a restaurant but I'm restricted from the same restaurant lounge or bar...

CCW holders have been stopped because of speeding in a stretch of road in front of a school and they ran into trouble because they carried too close to a school....but they were just driving by!!!! I heard in some states, if you carry a gun, you have to be one mile away from school ground...is it true???

Now some towns can introduce their own limitations regardless if they are in the same county and state of the CCW permit holders.

Does anyone of you given up on carrying (or carry way less) because of a growing maze of rules, regulations and ordinances???

Breaking the law become increasingly easy with all this confusion...

Seems to me you need to plan your daily itinerary and trips very careful to avoid running into CCW roadblocks...
 
I heard in some states, if you carry a gun, you have to be one mile away from school ground...is it true???
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We used to have that here in VA about 4 years ago. They finally did away with it, even making it legal to go pick your kid up from school provided you stay in the car.

I'm sorry to hear about the new restriction in Seattle. Hopefully state preemption will shoot it down.

We had our governor veto a good bill that passed the senate and house with a wide margin. No real explanation, just nixed it.
 
The mayor's stated plans may well run up against a little piece of legislation called State Preemption. The State of Washington reserves for itself the right to regulate firearms:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.290

and the laws the mayor can pass (and uphold) are actually very limited:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300

What you are seeing in the press will, I suspect, turn out to have been mostly sound and fury signifying nothing but posturing. Wait and see what restrictions are actually proposed before you throw in the towel.
 
Ohio has some bizzare CCW rules. No carry in resturants that serve all-k-hol. Carrying in a posted no-CCW business is a crime, not a awkard social moment. Etc.

I live in SW Ohio so we've been going to Northern Kentucky more and more to eat and shop because of the less restrictive CCW rules.

In Ohio, my business has been going to businesses who don't prohibit carry (to the best of my ability).

I haven't left a gun at home because it's a pain, but my gun has spent more time locked in my glove box than I would like due to Ohio's zaney rules.
 
California has my fiance and I in a bad spot, not even allowing us permits in the first place because of an absurdly anti-2A sheriff who excludes everyone except campaign donors and cronies from CCW and is apparently known to harass OC'ers. We are forced to OC unloaded which is STUPID.
 
We are forced to OC unloaded which is STUPID.
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That's an end run around the law ( hmm aren't they supposed to *enforce* laws?) because it basically outlaws open carry in any effective manner for its purpose.
 
Their are very few places that I go to here in Michigan that I can't carry my gun. Most of the off limit places here are places I don't generally go to unarmed so it doesn't really affect me.
 
In CT our laws are pretty strict in some ways (registration from dealers, requires ccw to purchase handgun), but once you clear all the hurdles, it is pretty reasonable.
No federal buildings, no building that has offices or meetings by government, I think schools unless you have permission (fuzzy memory on that). Private property you are trespassing if they ask you in person to leave and you don't. Signs are just bluffing I guess hehe.
 
Not trying to start a war here, and certainly don't need Robert Hairless piping in, but isn't the point of the second amendment that we are by virtue of a God given right (that of self protection) GUARANTEED the right to keep and bear arms.

If that is true, then following asinine laws which contradict your inherent right to protect yourself is in effect granting the law makers power above God.

Don't know about you, but that never has set well with me.
 
If that is true, then following asinine laws which contradict your inherent right to protect yourself is in effect granting the law makers power above God.

Don't know about you, but that never has set well with me.
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True, but sitting in jail, spending loads of cash in legal bills and possibly losing a job (as the sole breadwinner) doesn't sit too well with me.

I'd rather put that energy into changing the asanine laws instead of flauting them.
 
Ohio has some bizzare CCW rules. No carry in resturants that serve all-k-hol. Carrying in a posted no-CCW business is a crime, not a awkard social moment. Etc.
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Carrying in a posted private bussiness is not a crime. They must ask you to leave. Failure to leave, is then construed as trespassing which may be construed as a crime.
 
In Indiana is pretty much just courthouses and airports. No sweat here. In Indiana it is a handgun license and does not, as far as I can tell, make a distinction between CC and OC. On the other hand, if you can wait 8 weeks (due to low staffing) and afford $120 you can be licensed for life to carry any handgun(s) you lawfully possess on your person, in your vehicle (whatever that vehicle may be), and just about anyplace in the state. The state does not allow localities to override so it is even state-wide. We even had our state park "ban" (which was never enforced) repealed either last year or early this year. Heck, we can even hunt with rifles here now if they are chambered for straightwall handgun cartridges. For many decades you could only shoot varmints with a centerfire rifle here. Still can't hunt deer with a .243 or a 30-30 but at least you can with your Marlin .44 now.

The 2nd ammendment flourishes in Indiana.
 
Remind me to never move to WA... I mean don't get me wrong I stayed in Spokan (I know I spelled it wrong) for a week and that was some really great fishing, but damn those laws are just str8 excentric
 
Not trying to start a war here, and certainly don't need Robert Hairless piping in, but isn't the point of the second amendment that we are by virtue of a God given right (that of self protection) GUARANTEED the right to keep and bear arms.

If that is true, then following asinine laws which contradict your inherent right to protect yourself is in effect granting the law makers power above God.

Don't know about you, but that never has set well with me.
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I'm with "Grandpa shooter" I carry daily, Don't have a permit and don't want one, I do however try to obey all the laws and avoid drawing attention to myself from the law, Been pretty lucky for thirty years, and don't mind testing the odds.
 
I Live in a gun friendly state, so the answer would be no. 95% of my time is spent in KY, and the other 5% in IN. If they'd eliminate the need for a permit to CC, I think KY would be #1 on my list. Actually, when I factor in the weather in VT and AK, it is now. For me, anyway.
 
I have rarely carried in the past here in Georgia because our laws were rather restrictive. Fortunately our Govenor recently signed into law a much less restrictive carry law which takes effect on July 1. I plan to carry a lot more often in a few weeks.
 
Rules and restrictions are popping up all over the place...
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Well, I don't quite agree with you there. Aside from Nickel's grandstanding, nothing much has changed in the Evergreen State over the past thirty years or so. Here, you're simply seeing some of the usual liberal suspects becoming a bit more vocal.

Remind me to never move to WA... but damn those laws are just str8 excentric
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Huh? If you stay out of bars, schools, courthouses and mental institutions, nothing's changed. I've seen far less posted no-gun signage in this state's businesses than I've seen in a couple other states that many here regard as far more progressive firearms-wise than ours ... As the original shall-issue state, we've still got some room for improvement, but from my perspective, it seems that there's actually been growth in the RKBA movement around here.

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CCW holders have been stopped because of speeding in a stretch of road in front of a school and they ran into trouble because they carried too close to a school....but they were just driving by!!!!
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Cite, please. I'm pretty tuned in to the gun community, local news and law enforcement activity in this state, and I've never heard of this happening here.
 
I live in the puget sound area and don't have a problem. I never go to any schools, or city buildings, and that only place i've ever frequented that has a "no guns" sign is the lakewood 15 theatre, and I've got 15 other reasons to never go to that theatre again so it's a non issue.

It's not like you can't carry in washington. My whole family carries every day and we don't have any problems.

Yea the new laws are restrictive and dumb, but it's not hard to carry in WA. Just go pay your $60, get your permit, and bam, you're done.
 
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