Anyone only have a semi-auto for home defense?

[CWL]

NO on the shotgun for inside home defense. Too easy to have it deflected or even taken away by a perp around the corner.

I humbly suggest that you do not know anything about the defensive use of shotguns.

 

[bigfatdave]

Too easy to have it deflected or even taken away by a perp

A valid concern, but Cornered Cat has the answer to that problem:

Dear Gunhilda,
If an attacker tries to take my gun away and use it against me, what should I do?
Worried in Willows

Dear Worried,
Pull the felon repulsion lever. You should find it just underneath your trigger finger.

 

[blgoode]

primary's are a bilboard roll mark 5" Colt 1911, xse Colt Lightweight Commander, Springfield Loaded 5".




As backups I have a Kimber pre series II Compact, glock 19 & 26, SIG 226


Then I have my LMT AR-15

 

[NonConformist]

I have all three and alternate

A 12Ga

an AR-15

and either a USP or a 1911

 

[ETH77]

Home defense only autos

We have dual M40-A1 Steyrs. A Beretta CX4-40 with red dot will follow shortly. My long range weapon will be 7.62 Nato, or 7.62x39, I'm still deciding. Basically, I'd like a SSG-04, or PTR 91 SC.

My thoughts are to keep 0-100 yds clear with 40, farther than that I've got to switch cals.

 

[Loosedhorse]

knicks--

If the big concern is penetrating a thin wall, then a shotgun with bird-shot is MUCH SAFER than a handgun (unless you want to start talking about Glasers, and that will stir up a whole OTHER hornet's nest!).

Best way to prevent a wall pass-through is HIT YOUR TARGET, and for most of us that's going to be easier with a long gun than a pistol.

(I don't think you're worried that a shotgun will produce a ten-foot pattern at 10 feet--but you should anticipate some spray off target if you think shots greater than 20 feet would be likely).

Trouble negotiating corners? Consider a youth 20-gauge (nice short stock), and a defensive shotgun course that includes weapon retention. A long gun provides more leverage for a bad guy to take the gun away--and more leverage for you to KEEP the gun, if you know what you're doing.

Shotguns break down with barrel separate from action, and so can be moved/stored in a nice, non-descript box.

But (restating), if wall-pass through is the driving concern: shotgun with birdshot. Obviously, you know your situation best.

Good luck.

 

[KegCommando]

Yes.

I'd prefer a loaded shotgun, but I have a younger child that I just don't trust that anyplace is out of reach, so a pistol will have to do.

I think I'll name my next dog Shotgun, then I could at least talk about having one.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

All weapons I would employ as HD are autos. First and second are both .45s. Certainly my one and only revolver would need not apply.

 

[floydster]

CZ D PCR 9mm and GP100 Ruger .357 fully loaded, one one my nitestand ,the other on the headboard.
12 Ga. with 16" barrel next to my bed loaded with slugs and 7/1/2 buckshot,
rounds are alternated, two slugs ,three buckshot.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Glock 21, 19 & 26. Because I choose to keep my long guns locked up. It's not practical for me to keep a rifle out in my household especially when you consider the neighborhood I live in. The autos are in a quick access lock box located next to my bed. The set up works for me.

 

[HisSoldier]

Back in the 70's a friend of mine sawed the barrel of a .410 off very short, fired it at his garage door standing at the far end, 20 feet maybe? The shot pattern was about 6" diameter and he managed to kill his pickup that was parked on the other side of the garage door. A lot of drinking went on back then.

 

[skers69]

CZ PCR and G26 are my two PD/HD guns.

 

[30mag]

Remington 1100. (12 gauge)
I want a pump Mossberg though.

 

[30mag]

And someone said "...the police don't clean up the mess..." but a shotgun is extra insurance YOU aren't the mess.

 

[neviander]

.45 auto and mag light at the bedside, 9mm in the van...but I really want an 870 or similar for home defense.

I just now thought about the 9mm being in the vehicle...I guess it would be more practical for going through car doors

 

[mgkdrgn]

Been thinking about one of those. Have you shot it much? Any problems?

I've shot it enough to be happy with the patterns (I believe I posted them elsewhere here) and to confirm in my own mind that -I- for sure don't want to be on the business end of that thing when it goes off at SD ranges.

I have an blue ultralight with a 4 inch BBL. It is the lightest handgun I own, next to the NAA 22 Mag (the others are a Glock 26 and an older 9 round 22 NEA revolver).

When I have it in the car, I lead off with two #4 buckshot, followed with 3 000 buckshot. Carry 5 x 45 Colts for a reload, if needed.

Seems to be pretty accurate in 45 Colt. At 15 yards first time at the plate machine, 5 rounds, 5 plates. Have to use a different grip than on the Glock to be comfortable ... wrapping my hand deeper into the grip, with the trigger between the 1st and 2nd finger joint. The big rubber grip does a good job of managing the recoil.

I like mine ... intend to keep it! For what it is meant to be, a short range self defense gun, with limited collateral damage potential, I think it's tough to beat.

 

[mgkdrgn]

Anyone ever think about penetration factors or geometry of fires? What happens with a man stopper when you miss the man (does little Johnny get one in the headlights instead)? If you live in an apartment will you kill a neighbor accidentally? Just asking. Anyone have some good answers?

Yes, I have, and that is exactly why my Judge is first up to bat. Seriously nasty at in-house (in car) SD ranges, but won't bother the neighbors.

 

[powermad]

What kind of 9mm do you have? There has been a lot of flack about the internals on the FNP causing inconsistant triggers and other problems. As far as I know, the problem has not been fixed by FN and it carries over to the 45. If your 9mm is a Glock, Sig, or M&P I strongly suggest you stick with it......just one man's opinion.

There is a problem with some FNP-9 triggers. FN has a new trigger pack for them.
There is nothing wrong with the FNP-45.
I checked the SA pull on mine yesterday and it popped at 4.20 pounds

The only issue it has is it won't stack WWB in the mags for some reason.
And that seems to be a new thing with the Winchester ammo. Others that are having the same problem have been using WWB and it is just recently that people started reporting it.

I'm planning on selling one of my 9mm's to upgrade to a FNP-45.

The FNP-45 is a fine choice.


I only had an hour to try it out. Next time I go I'll take my time and see if I can get rid of the shotgun pattern.



With a 2 year old running around the long guns stay in the safe. The .45 is with me all the time.

Inside boomstick


Outside boomstick.

 

[jpatterson]

That lever pistol is just wild. I can't tell if I like it or not!

I snuggle an XD and an 870. Safety first right?