Anyone order a CMP M1 lately?

[M2 Carbine]

I just sent in an order for a CMP M1.

Has anyone got one lately?

About what is the delivery time?

What do you think of the condition of the rifle you received?

BTW I ordered the Danish VAR barrel.

 

[Selfdfenz]

I can't respond to you questions but I would love to know how you shot you reguired number of matches. I'm looking for matches in north TX where I can go and shoot the required number of matches to qualify to purchase one of these rifle.
Heard great things about the VAR equipped Danes BTW.
Good luck

S-

 

[M2 Carbine]

S,

I don't have to shoot the matches.
In the small print you don't have to meet that requirement if you are over 60.
I've got it beat by 6 years

Also ex-military or law enforcement is enough proof that you shot matches.

If you are in the TSRA, you are in a CMP organization. (another requirement)

Check out the www.odcmp.com web site, if you haven't already.
"CMP purchase Instructions"

I got the impression that if you shoot in most any kind of match at your gun/a gun club and you get an offical there, (on club stationary probably) to attest that you shot in a match it meets the requirement. I believe (but I'm not sure) I seen even a 22 match would count as long as you fired 50 rounds.

Years ago you did have to be a high power shooter. That's why I never bothered to get a CMP M1.

 

[hillbilly]

The required number of matches is one.

Then there is the requirement that you fired 50 rounds of ammo, at least, in competition.

If you participate in one highpower match, you qualify.

I shot in one highpower match last Feb. and qualified. That's the only reason I fired in the match.

Got my letter from the match director showing I did fire at least 50 rounds in competition that day.

I haven't ordered yet as I still haven't joined the gun club, which is another requirement.

hillbilly

 

[hillbilly]

The required number of matches is one.

Then there is the requirement that you fired 50 rounds of ammo, at least, in competition.

If you participate in one highpower match, you qualify.

I shot in one highpower match last Feb. and qualified. That's the only reason I fired in the match.

Got my letter from the match director showing I did fire at least 50 rounds in competition that day.

I haven't ordered yet as I still haven't joined the gun club, which is another requirement.

hillbilly

 

[Ed]

I got 2 in Jan. One was a SG HRA that is BEAUTIFUL. All correct except op rod and Triger housing. No dings in wood, correct HRA stock. I also got a RG Winchester that was marked RG for finish. It has a LMR barrel on it that was practically new. It cleaned up very nice. Wait from what I have been seeing online is around 2 weeks. That may be wrong but its what ppl have been saying. Good Luck.

 

[M2 Carbine]

Thanks Ed.

Two weeks.
Great, I hope so.
The impression the CMP web site gave, it would be two months.

I've had an M1 for years but there's nothing like getting a new toy.


A good friend is a Viet Nam paratrooper. I'll have to talk him into getting one.

 

[Tropical Z]

So am i right in reading that if i send them a copy of my DD-214 im in the club and can order a Guh-rand?

 

[M2 Carbine]

Tropical Z

Quote from "CMP Purchase Instructions"


4. Have participated in a marksmanship activity when at least 50 rounds of range firing were completed.

"Providing proof of military or law enforcement service or..................will satisfy this requirement."




I was going to use my DD214 until I saw the over 60 waver.

 

[Nando Aqui]

You DO NOT have to shoot any matches.

All you have to do is provide proof that you have shot 50 rounds. Period. For example, a letter from the Range Officer where you shoot will suffice. I know because that's what I did, and so have many others.

If you want to read a lot of reports about CMP orders, their excellent service, etc. go to www.battlerifles.com and/or to www.odcmp.com and check out their forum.

I ordered my first CMP rifle (SA SG) at the end of November and received it in early January. Ordered the second (HRA SG) in late January and received it in less than two weeks! Ordered the third one less than a week ago, and... well, I am waiting on that one.

For membership in an affiliated club, just join the Garand Collectors Association ($25/yr) on-line. That leaves cictizenship and the notarized document.

Picture below: Top two are CMP rifles, the 1953 HRA, and the 1944 SA. Then a 1945 SA from Tony Giacobbe, and a new production SA.

The CMP rifles are great. That HRA 'thinks' it is a match rifle, and has me convinced!

Alex

 

[M2 Carbine]

Thanks Nando Aquí

That was the impression I got about the match requirement.

Your CMP rifles look good.

This is my M1.
As you can see, that's not the typical military stock.
I don't know it's history.
I bought it from the 1st National Bank

 

[Swampy]

M2 carbine,

Beautimus M1... congrats.

BTW, that IS USGI wood on your rifle. In the 50's & 60's the Army went to using birch as replacement wood when refurbishing M1's. Birch is good solid wood, more dense than walnut. Very common on M1's and also M14's.

Just my experiences... but about 20% of the USGI M1's I see coming out of the CMP have birch buttstocks, with the occasional birch handguard thrown in for good measure.

I received an HRA M1 2 years ago that came with all new matching birch wood set. Hardly a ding or scratch on it. Looks very similar to yours only without the walnut rear HG. My guess is that this rifle went through a rebuild just before the Army stored it away..... Most of the rest of the birch buttstocks I've received came with a mix & match of birch-walnut handguards.

You can see SOME of my CMP M1's at: Swampy's Stuff

Best,
Swampy

 

[Selfdfenz]

I want to thank all of you for all of this intel.

I just joined the TSRA about 2 weeks ago and am waiting on the literature.

Heck, I have my old NRA score book with a match or two in it from 10 years ago.
And it's signed by the range officer for those matches.

I have half a notion to send it in and see what happens.

Those rifles are awesome. I had an IH in high school ROTC and I'd give my eye teeth to have an IH from CMP. Still remember the SN, 5343862 after 34 years.
I may have trouble remembering where I left my shoes the night before but I can always remember that SN, go figure
I really liked that old rifle.


Thanks again all.
S-

 

[Tropical Z]

I gotta be honest with you people.After going to their website,it sounds like your'e just as likely to get a worn out piece of c*** as you are to get a good (not even close to excellent) rifle.I gotta pass on that.

 

[M2 Carbine]

Swampy,
Thanks a lot for the info. I always wondered about that stock.
It doesn't have a scratch on it.

Someone left it in the bank. Defaulted on a couple hundred dollar loan and all the bank could charge for it was what was owed (so they said).
I was out of work and my wife insisted I buy it (wonderful woman).

You have some good looking M1's.

I see #5 has a stock like mine.

 

[M2 Carbine]

Tropical Z

You're probably not wrong, but I think they have to say that.

You know, what to you might be a piece of crap and to me I'de be real happy with the same rifle.

From the pictures I've seen so far they look well worth the money I'm paying.


Now watch me get a piece of crap.

 

[Bushmaster225]

I hope you know what your doing.

Once you buy one, you can't stop. First it will be a M1, then a 1903, possible a 1917.

I now have my shipped to my Parents house, so I don't have to hear the wife.

"Why do you need another one of those?"

Here is a Pic of my 5, waiting on one to come back from West Texas Ordance.

Another good sight is www.jouster.com

 

[Tropical Z]

So if you want one,which is likely to be the best of all the grades and makers? Sounds like you want to avoid the $400.00 (my price range) rifles and go for the $500.00 jobs.Its just hard for me to spend that kinda money on a semi-auto Turkish mauser!

 

[Selfdfenz]

"semi-auto Turkish mauser!"
<That does not compute>


I guess there are ways to get a less expensive Garand, say at a gunshow.
It will be a parts gun, from who knows where, and I would not be a bit surprised if you ended up replacing half the parts to then get only a marginal shooter at best.
Somehow I have to think you would start off better with a $400 dollar gun from CMP than anything you might come across at a GS or pawn shop based on what some are saying at battlerifles. I would expect a pretty solid rifle for 500. Don't know if they still have the policy but when it was DCM (now CMP) you had a return option if the 1st rifle was unsatisfactory.

Then again, for about $700 you could get an AR of one sort or another that would be new and pretty dog-gone accurate compared to just about any Garand I ever shot (MI-Ds that belonged to my old HP club).
S-

 

[Swampy]

TropicalZ wrote:

I gotta be honest with you people.After going to their website,it sounds like your'e just as likely to get a worn out piece of c*** as you are to get a good (not even close to excellent) rifle.I gotta pass on that.

Before you make that judgement I'd suggest you do TWO things...

1) Look at my website (addy posted above). ALL my M1's were bought from the CMP.

2) Look at the CMP's Inspection Criteria page..... on their website.

Leave aside the exterior esthetics of the rifles in question... you are paying for FUNCTIONALITY. The CMP's rifles ALL function as an M1 should..... and that's what they are selling. Looks are purely secondary to USGI armory inspection criteria for a weapon that is about to be issued to a US Soldier or Marine about to go to a foreign land and told to, "Go shoot bad guys".

Again.... ALL CMP's rifles will function or the CMP will make it right. Their customer service is the best in the business, bar none. The grading system is primarily based on the condition of the tube. For your $500 you are guaranteed a much better barrel than one for $400 (Service Grade vs. Rack Grade).... but everything else still has to work as an M1 should.

Now, once you've done this, compare what you see with what you seen at gunshows and pawnshops. Compare prices.... and you'll see there is no comparison.

For the money they charge, even the "worst of the bunch" is still worth more than what you'll pay for it and much less $$ than the same rifle through a commercial source.

Best regards,
Swampy

 

[Steve in PA]

Garands aren't for everyone. Leaves more for us

 

[Bushmaster225]

What's your Web site Swampy?

 

[Swampy]

What's your Web site Swampy?

Posted above.....

Swampy

 

[Swampy]

M2 Carbine wrote:

I see #5 has a stock like mine.

Actually, #5 has a commercial aftermarket walnut set (Wenig)....

.... but #9 is like yours..... only all 3 pieces are new birch.

Best,
Swampy

 

[Nando Aqui]

Swampy -

I have visited your website many times, but I had never looked at the OOS website. I just did - very nicely done!
http://www.swampworks.com/OsageOrange.html

Anyone who wants to get a quick, clear description of what the matches are all about ought to look here first - nice pictures.

I will start shooting in matches (again) this year, and will certainly drive over to the OOS range/club, and hope to meet you then.

Alex