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Anyone seen new Mexican Army issue rifle?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Min, Sep 28, 2006.

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  1. Min

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    Actually, no.


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  3. FTF

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    Fx05. Copy of an H&K. A seriously cool rifle.
     
  4. MatthewVanitas

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    Just a note: this same subject was covered last week, but was locked down because 90% of members just wanted to make stupid jokes about illegal immigration, tacos, and all kinds of pointless things.

    Please help keep this on topic so that I (and everyone else) can actually learn something about an interesting development in military arms.

    Can the Mods just delete all the dumb posts and leave up the ones with something to contribute?

    -MV
     
  5. .45Guy

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    All joking aside, remember that Mexico was the first nation to adopt a semi-auto service rifle, although only 400 were delivered before the onset of WWI. It was a Mexican design to boot.
     
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    That 10" barrel isn't going to produce a very lethal bullet. :)
     
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    A full auto burst of 30 rounds might ruin your day though.......
     
  8. HorseSoldier

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    The guys in the picture are their special operations types (they got the rifle before everyone else, in their specific commando configuration, as such things usually happen the world over). A round from the short barrel on their rifle won't be any more or any less lethal than a round from the extra-short barreled AR uppers our special operations types use.
     
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    All off-topic comments regarding immigration have been deleted. If you find your post missing, then consider yourself warned. Further comments along the lines of what got the previous thread closed will result in both deletion and a permanent ban of the member making the comment. Clear enough for everyone?
     
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    Does the bayonet he's carrying acutally fit that rifle or is carried in place of a knife?
     
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    Thats simply a version of the HK G36K. that knife looks like a G3 bayonet ..that carbine dont take a bayonet, so I guess you would call it a combat knife in their use.
     
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    Would've loved to have one of these for pointing out the window of my
    up-armored humvee in the sandbox.....a little difficult with the M16A2.
     
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    So is there a rationale for them NOT issuing a short barrel or bullpup to troops stuck in close-quarters armor, something like the FN P90, at least, if not an H&K like these? Or even a new folder .223 like the SU-16C that can be fired while folded AND uses the same mags?

    Seems like it'd be logical, to me. Keep a few secured in the vehicle at all times, get in, the people not driving stow their M16s and pick up the shortbarrel/bullpups/folders instead?

    As for Mexico, based on what I've seen of it, this seems like it makes sense. Given the environment, I think it'd be either the extremes of loooooong shots over terrain for someone with a sniper rifle, or very close-quarters scuffling in close urban alleys or hovels...Mexico City and other places do have a lot of those. Looks like a good choice, to me.
     
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    My Guess

    My guess is that the new rifle will go to elite units/Commando outfits only. The cash-poor Mexican government will probably stick with the G-3. We are talking about an Army (its not their fault, I guess) that is still tooling around in WW2 Sherman tanks, last I heard.
     
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    Dumb question here but can the rifle the Mexican army is carrying, chamber the larger .223 rounds such as the 68 grain and up or is it limited like the AR-15, or atleast it was my understanding not to use more than a 68 grain in my AR.

    And is the Mexican army subject to the Geneva Convintion or are they using hollow points and expandable ammo in there rifles?
     
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    Yeah, it's $$$ and there are vehicles that need to be replaced first!
     
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    Is it me or is a bayonet on a rifle that short rather pointless? "Ooh, I'm going to stick you...ugh... can't reach..." At that point, I think I'd just start chucking empty magazines at people.

    Also, question about the Mexican Army:

    What are the most recent wars they were involved in?
     
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    Does an M4 with the stock collapsed all the way down count? Not as compact as a side folding stock deal like the G-36, but you can aim with the stock collapsed, whereas it's all pretty much sprayed suppressive fire with folders.
     
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    You'd be surprised that with some training, it's possible to make hits from
    moving vehicles even on SEMI-auto. However, while riding shotgun, I
    typically carried a....shotgun with 00. One of these little Mex guns would
    have been great, too, if I had to leave the vehicle while outside the wire.
     
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    Fighting internal rebellion down in Chiapas state, IIRC.

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    I believe they also occasionally have to deal with druglords who might put up a bit of resistance.
     
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    The last 3 times I was in Mexico, the military (Army & Navy) were carrying M-16s.
     
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    I have seen M-16's for the Mexican Navy, and G-3's for the Army.

    As much as many folks want to think that it is not so, the Mexican Military IS activly involved in the supression of drugs intended for the US.

    I spend ~ 75 days a year in Baja California, and I have found the average Mexican soldier to be professional, curtious, and not corrupt.
     
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    bayonets are useful for crowd control
     
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    My XD45 has a 4" barrel but you're not going to catch me standing downrange any time soon.

    Ever seen a pictures of a Legionairre with a bayo mounted on his FAMAS? Similarly lame.

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