Plan2Live
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Standard issue for City of Sumter, SC Police Department and I believe SC Highway Patrol is using it. I have a friend on the Police Department and he loves it.
Anyone still using .45 GAP?
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Hastings
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I've reloaded a lot of 45gap for both the G37 and G38. I think the cartridge is fantastic. I get the same velocity out of bullets up to 230gr while using about 1 grain less powder than 45acp. I use everything from 180gr jacketed to 255gr Keith-style hardcast lead in the 45gap, and it is an excellent performing cartridge.
I have owned a G21sf, and while the grip size was not a problem, neither was it ideal. Just because you can wrap your hands around a brick doesn't mean it is the best feeling or most ergonomic option available. I have large hands, but just don't like the feel of the G20/21 grip frame.
For me, the Gen3 full-size grip frame is a perfect fit. If the grip is of the RTF2 variety, even better. If I can get 45acp bullet diameter, weight, and velocity out of a gun that fits me perfectly, why would I settle for anything less. That's why 45gap works for me. I also own an M&P 45c, and while I really like it I wish I could get a backstrap insert that would give me the same backstrap angle as a Glock. Even the largest insert fails to add to the grip at the bottom of the frame, and that's precisely where I want more meat. For me, that portion of the Glock frame is what makes it feel so secure and solid in my hand.
I understand those who dislike the 45gap. If you have a 45acp pistol that works perfectly for you, there is no need for a shorter cartridge. But I love the 45gap, and think it was a great idea. It's too bad that other companies don't take advantage of the cartridge. A S&W 45gap shield would be a nice, small gun. A 45gap snub-nose revolver with a frame sized for the cartridge would be a nice little gun, too.
380 and 9mm have a similar if not identical relationship. If the 380 could match the velocity and bullet weight range of the 9mm, but still work in smaller pistols, who would complain. So what's with all of the negativity aimed at the 45gap. Seems kinda silly.
I have owned a G21sf, and while the grip size was not a problem, neither was it ideal. Just because you can wrap your hands around a brick doesn't mean it is the best feeling or most ergonomic option available. I have large hands, but just don't like the feel of the G20/21 grip frame.
For me, the Gen3 full-size grip frame is a perfect fit. If the grip is of the RTF2 variety, even better. If I can get 45acp bullet diameter, weight, and velocity out of a gun that fits me perfectly, why would I settle for anything less. That's why 45gap works for me. I also own an M&P 45c, and while I really like it I wish I could get a backstrap insert that would give me the same backstrap angle as a Glock. Even the largest insert fails to add to the grip at the bottom of the frame, and that's precisely where I want more meat. For me, that portion of the Glock frame is what makes it feel so secure and solid in my hand.
I understand those who dislike the 45gap. If you have a 45acp pistol that works perfectly for you, there is no need for a shorter cartridge. But I love the 45gap, and think it was a great idea. It's too bad that other companies don't take advantage of the cartridge. A S&W 45gap shield would be a nice, small gun. A 45gap snub-nose revolver with a frame sized for the cartridge would be a nice little gun, too.
380 and 9mm have a similar if not identical relationship. If the 380 could match the velocity and bullet weight range of the 9mm, but still work in smaller pistols, who would complain. So what's with all of the negativity aimed at the 45gap. Seems kinda silly.
Walt Sherrill
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One of the BIG drawbacks to .45 GAP has been cost.
Recently -- this week in fact -- I picked up a half-case of .45 GAP from Georgia Arms (their "Canned Heat") the same price, shipped, as .45 ACP. I've generally found it pretty close to .45 ACP prices, and it was -- during the great ammo depression -- often easier to find. Ammo, generally, is coming back, and the prices seem to be dropping a bit.
Happily or unhappily, so darned many NEW GUNS were purchased during the past couple of years - many by folks who didn't shoot a lot -- I expect the demand to remain high and don't expect the prices to drop too far.
Recently -- this week in fact -- I picked up a half-case of .45 GAP from Georgia Arms (their "Canned Heat") the same price, shipped, as .45 ACP. I've generally found it pretty close to .45 ACP prices, and it was -- during the great ammo depression -- often easier to find. Ammo, generally, is coming back, and the prices seem to be dropping a bit.
Happily or unhappily, so darned many NEW GUNS were purchased during the past couple of years - many by folks who didn't shoot a lot -- I expect the demand to remain high and don't expect the prices to drop too far.
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jimbo555
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I don't use it. I just want my xds back!
David E
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When it first came out, there was a concerted effort to keep prices low, but that can only last so long.
The people that consolidated their calibers to the popular ones for "convenience" probably discovered the major downside of that approach: the popular calibers are the first ones to disappear from the shelves.
Not anymore. Transitioning to the Gen4 Glock 21.
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