Anyone use the Apex Sear in their M&P yet?

[Mags]

Was looking up a way to improve my M&P9c's trigger to be more like that of a Glcok with a 3.5 installed. I seen the 29 page slide show on how to do your own trigger job but I am not confident in my small parts polishing skills. Has anyone installed the Apex Hard Sear in their M&P and how did you like it?
Link to the Apex Sear for those unfamiliar.

 

[gglass]

I own 5 M&P's and I have upgraded all of them with the Apex sear. For $29, and a 5 minute installation, it should a mandatory upgrade for all M&P owners. The exception to this would be those carrying M&P's as a duty weapon.

The trigger weight of all of my M&P's no measure at or slightly over 4 pounds, and the trigger reset is FAR more distinct.

The Apex sear is so good, that I even upgraded my 2 M&P Pro's... Yes, it is that good.

A beautiful pistol deserves a beautiful trigger.

 

[jackinil]

I did the sear and FPB on my FS 40.The trigger is fantastic now.

 

[samurai]

I just put one in my M&P45fs. My son also has a 45fs and we shot them side by side and difference (both in pull and smoothness) was night and day. I have an extra that I bought that I'm putting in my 9fs to try and see if it makes as big a change.

 

[SheepNutz]

I have the Apex sear and firing pin block, and love them both. The trigger is amazingly smooth now, and the reset is great.

 

[Bill2e]

TAG for future use

 

[nd1979]

It is like night and day.

A must thing to do and easy at that. I first installed the sear and USB and it was amazing from the stock trigger. I just received their 'carry" sear and trigger springs that bring the pull to approx.5.5 lbs (from 4.5 or so)

 

[MK11]

Have there been any functioning issues? I noticed gglass advising not to do it on a duty gun. I think an M&P is in my very near future and I would use it for CCW (I'm not an LEO). Thanks!

 

[kd7nqb]

Have there been any functioning issues? I noticed gglass advising not to do it on a duty gun. I think an M&P is in my very near future and I would use it for CCW (I'm not an LEO). Thanks!

I am interested in this too, but I would assume his warning away from LEO's using it was simply due to reduced trigger weight and agency requirements.


In all honesty how easy are these to install, I love my M&P but would like a better trigger in it, what tools would I need?

 

[RobMoore]

If I didn't already have a Dan Burwell trigger job, I'd consider this.

 

[jackinil]

For the sear,all you need are roll pin punches and a hammer.Apex has a good "How To" video on their website

 

[HighStrung]

Apex now offers a "APEX M&P Duty/Carry Action Enhancement Kit (DCAEK)". This is several different components including the sear, striker block, and springs, etc. This kit was designed to give those who carry their M&P's daily/for duty the better trigger feel, and not reduce the pull weight to a dangerously light weight. From everything I've heard, no one has had any problems out of any of the Apex products yet.

Go check 'em out.
http://www.apextactical.com/hp_zencart/

For reviews from a lot of other M&P owners using the Apex products, you can check out this forum as well, lots of good info on this site, just not as much daily activity.
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showforum=59

 

[gglass]

Have there been any functioning issues? I noticed gglass advising not to do it on a duty gun. I think an M&P is in my very near future and I would use it for CCW (I'm not an LEO). Thanks!

The the reduced weight trigger would be my main concern for LEO's. Also, I don't know of many LE departments that would approve the use of aftermarket trigger components like sears. Every department has similar rules for both issued and approved carry guns that require a factory approved armorer to certify a handgun for use... The handgun usually has to be re-certified this way every year. I'm 99% certain that an aftermarket sear would not pass the smell test.

 

[distra]

The handgun usually has to be re-certified this way every year. I'm 99% certain that an aftermarket sear would not pass the smell test.

Brings up an interesting question for CCW, if you were involved in a SD situation could this be used against you? Sort of "hair trigger" avenue for prosecution? Even with the Duty/Carry mods, I don't think I'd feel comfortable carrying the modified gun.

 

[9mmepiphany]

The the reduced weight trigger would be my main concern for LEO's

Sort of "hair trigger" avenue for prosecution? Even with the Duty/Carry mods, I don't think I'd feel comfortable carrying the modified gun.

it's not that light...they are pretty consistent at producing a trigger pull of 4lbs. the major improvements are in the smoothness of the trigger press and the more distinct reset.

 

[RobMoore]

Can anyone cite an actual case where an otherwise good shoot resulted in a guilty verdict because of modifications to the handgun? or because of the shooter's choice of ammo?

 

[71Commander]

Check it out.

http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm

 

[Mylhouse]

What about the horrible overtravel with the stock trigger? Does the Apex reduce overtravel?

 

[Quack]

for reference:
--------------Trigger Travel - Total travel - take-up - reset
XDm (w/ Springer kit) .33" - .165" - .165"
Glock (modified) .40" - .23" - .17"
M&P 9 Pro (stock) .55" - .34" - .21"
M&P 9 Pro (Apex) .55" - .385" - .165"

 

[2ndamd]

Will this apex duty/carry enhancement kit work in the compact models as well?