Anyone using Qmaxx?

[Buckys]

New member, my son's shoot clays competitively so we do a lot of shotgun cleaning. Started using Qmaxx Black a couple of years ago which does a great job with everything including the perpetual constriction of choke tubes due to plastic wads.

i recently decided to try it as part of a rifle barrel cleaning.

i was trying to clean a rifle I purchased used. Motivation was less than stellar groups with a number of different factory ammo options. Cheap Amazon borescope showed a lot of copper fouling and so wanted trying it back to bare metal and trying again before plotting next steps with this gun.

I started with boretech eliminator and their nylon brush. Went through their standard procedure a few times and bore scope said i was not done.

Ended up going back to an overnight foam bath with old reliable Wipeout. Finished up with the qmaxx black we use for shotguns (instead of an oil patch) and a few dry patches.

Bare metal!

Wondering if anyone is or was using Qmaxx with their rifles?

 

[Poper]

Hi, Buckys, and welcoome to The High Road!
Yep. I've been using Qmaxx Blu on rifles for several years. Great stuff! I discovered it at a Friends of NRA event in the form af a tiny sample bottle. A couple months later I decided to disassemble and clean my old Remington 572 that hadn't seen a cleaning rod for nearly 15 years. The first patch and all the lead fouling came out in sand-like granules! I've been using it ever since.
A conversation with one of the testing engineers was very interesting. The engineer said the Qmaxx Blu (and Black Diamond) are not solvents though they use solvents as a vehicle for the patented formula. According to the engineer, the Qmaxx doesn't disolve anything. It breaks the chemical bond of the fouling to the barrel steel. Because it is heavier than water, it purges the steel surface of any water or moisture present and then as the vehicle flashes off, a microscopic layer of the Qmaxx metal preservative is laid down. This material is extremely dense and hard providing a wear resistance that also creates a barrier to the deposition of dirt, grime, dust na fouling. Future cleanings will be easier and when the external metal is treated, it will, after several treatments, become nearly impervious to fingerprints. They will just wipe off.
I was so impressed by my first use of Qmaxx Blu, I treated my Remington shaver screen and blade with it. The shaver was new and unused prior to the first treatment. I would use daily it and could smell the Qmaxx during use. When I could no longer smell the Qmaxx, I re-treated the screen and blade. Rinsed and repeated.
Seven years and 4 months later the NiCad batteries died. The original screen and blade were still good.
By the way, I was told by the owner of the company to treat the chrome wheels on my truck with the Qmaxx H2O product and they would then clean very easily. No kidding! Disc Brake dust just wipes off with a dry towel!!
Qmaxx is a technology company that is all about the preservation of metal. It reduces friction without the use of lubricants because the dense, microscopic coating protects the metal surface as its smoothness allows the contact surfaces to move against each other without galling or wear.

 

[Pat Riot]

Thank you Gentlemen for posting. I will have to look into this product.

Edit: I just ordered a bottle from Amazon to try it out.

 

[Varminterror]

Based on the SDS of Qmaxx Blue, there’s not a chance in hell I would treat my daily shaving razor with it.

It’s also absolutely a solvent.

 

[Buckys]

Thanks for the replies. Looks like I needed to request email notification for replies to threads I created here.

Poper, I got the same information at a state championship at the national shooting complex in San Antonio. It's a unique product. Although I'm with Varminterror about using with a shaver lol.

I'll have to try the idea of cleaning brake dust off my trucks wheels though.

 

[Poper]

Based on the SDS of Qmaxx Blue, there’s not a chance in hell I would treat my daily shaving razor with it.

It’s also absolutely a solvent.

No, the Qmaxx product is not a solvent. Yes, it has solvent in it but that is used as a vehicle to deposit the Qmaxx onto the surface. Once the solvents have flashed off, the microscopic coating is all that remains.

 

[Poper]

Thanks for the replies. Looks like I needed to request email notification for replies to threads I created here.

Poper, I got the same information at a state championship at the national shooting complex in San Antonio. It's a unique product. Although I'm with Varminterror about using with a shaver lol.

I'll have to try the idea of cleaning brake dust off my trucks wheels though.

Please do not thik of this stuff as a cleaner or lubricant because it isn't either one. When applied according to the directions and allowed to cure, it deposits a very dense micrioscopic coating that protects and preserves metal. Because it is heavier than water, it purges the metal surface of any moisture present before the coating is deposited so rust cannot get started. I mention ed the wheels application because when applied and allowed to cure, nothing sticks to it. Just hose the wheel off and wipe dry. To prove it to yourself, cllean the wheels on one side of your car and apply the Qmaxx. Then clean the other side like you usually do. Whenever you clean your car, check to see if you notice a difference in the ease of cleaning the rims.
Qmaxx is different than anything I have ever seen or used before. My son used the Qmaxx H20 on the old, stuck door latches on a 1978 Firebird that the bodyshop was intending to replace. Within a couple days the latches were working perfectly and better than replacement ones they had used on a previous restoration.

It's not cheap but it is not terribly expensive either. I strongly suggest you try it before you knock it. You may be surprised. I know I was.

My step-father, an OTR trucker (Owner-Operator now retired) used the Qmax "Ice" product on the landing gear and undercarriage of his trailers to prevent ice from clinging to them in the winter. He says it really works and wished it had been availaible many years before because he swears it saved him fuel not having to haul the usual ice burden in the winter all those years. (His headquarters was in SD.)

 

[Varminterror]

No, the Qmaxx product is not a solvent. Yes, it has solvent in it but that is used as a vehicle to deposit the Qmaxx onto the surface. Once the solvents have flashed off, the microscopic coating is all that remains.

Read the SDS instead of the marketing.

 

[Poper]

Read the SDS instead of the marketing.

Use a little common sense instead of hyperbole.
It takes two drops to adequately coat the screen and blades. One for the screen and one for the blades. Application need only be done 2 or three times per year. At that rate, we will pobably have had greater exposure to amonia for copper fouling removal.
Personally, I recommend protective rubber, laytex or nitrile gloves when handling gun cleaning chemicals/products and Qmaxx is no exception. When cured, the product is completely dry, though when the machine is running, a faint odor of the product can be detected. After shaving I always wash my face regardles of the machine or blade I use. It's an old habit.

Regardless of the SDS, the product doesn't scare me and I have been using it since 2015 with no ill effects. A little caution with a light sprinkling of common sense goes a long way.

 

[Varminterror]

I highly recommend common sense in this case, which it seems you’re lacking.

I don’t find it sensical to rub an irritant and carcinogenic product on my face, daily, just to make use of some product by which you’ve obviously been bamboozled.

https://qmaxxproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/QMaxx-BLU-Liquid-GHS-SDS.06.27.17.pdf

30-60% of the product is one particular “super solvent,” chased by 10-30% each of two other solvents… so at minimum, 50% is solvent, up to greater than 90%.

It’s a solvent, and it’s full of stuff you shouldn’t be rubbing on your face razor if you have any common sense.

 

[Poper]

It’s a solvent, and it’s full of stuff you shouldn’t be rubbing on your face razor if you have any common sense.

The solvents are long gone after the stuff dries. As stated before, the solvents are there as a vehicle for the deposition of the proprietary coating that is the final product. When used as directed and with the appropriate personal safety gear, the product is as safe as other gun cleaning products and a modicum of common sense goes a long way.

Once the product has cured, there is no solvent present. No different than any other coating or plating. It is hard and has wear resistance. Once cured, it presents a hazard similar to electroless nickel or hot-blued steel. As with all chemical products, it should be used according to the manufacturer's directions.

I admit, using it as a coating for electric shavers is not a stated use/application for the product by the manufacturer. I merely related this particular use I myself performed to illustrate the durability and wear resistance I experienced of the microscopic coating that is deposited on/bonded to the metal surface. After six years of nearly every day use of the shaver, I suffered no ill effects and the original screen and blade were still serviceable.
PLEASE NOTE: the electric shaver was only assembled and used after the product was fully cured on the screen and blade and no solvents were present.

Qmaxx Blu SDS is 6 pages:
https://qmaxxproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/QMaxx-BLU-Liquid-GHS-SDS.06.27.17.pdf

People with intense concern and fear of SDS materials would be well advised to avoid reloading activities in their entirety. Though not the only hazardous material encountered during the safe practice of reloading ammunition, smokeless propellants are some pretty nasty chemicals in their own right.
(Alliant Blue Dot SDS = 12 pages) https://www.alliantpowder.com/downloads/sds/15-25_Smokeless_Powder.pdf
(Winchester 748 SDS = 12 pages) https://winchesterpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/winchester-smokeless-ball-powders_072811.pdf

 

[d2wing]

Sounds good. I am going to try it.