Fixxah
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Watch some reloading videos on you tube. Quarantee you will get a progressive. Good luck.
anything else I need? (newbie)
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RustyFN
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Why? I've seen the videos and loaded on a friends Dillon 550 and still own a Lee classic turret. Try loading and changing calibers on a classic turret and you might find out you don't need a progressive.
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DaveInFloweryBranchGA
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I agree with Rusty. I own an excellent progressive, but I do about as much reloading on my Lee Classic Turret because it's a quick easy, simple thing for pistol and caliber conversions are so much cheaper.
Unless you shoot thousands of rounds per month, a progressive is a waste of money and more about ego (mine included) than it is about producing good ammo.
The Lee Classic Turret combined with one of their Lee Classic Cast single stage will handle the needs of 95% or better of the reloaders/shooters out there. Had these been available when I bought my progressive, I would have never needed or wanted the progressive.
Just my .02,
Dave
Unless you shoot thousands of rounds per month, a progressive is a waste of money and more about ego (mine included) than it is about producing good ammo.
The Lee Classic Turret combined with one of their Lee Classic Cast single stage will handle the needs of 95% or better of the reloaders/shooters out there. Had these been available when I bought my progressive, I would have never needed or wanted the progressive.
Just my .02,
Dave
jfh
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Fundamentally, I couldn't agree more with RustyFN's and Dave's observations--but I will throw one more element into the calculus:
I have a "sore shoulder"--and believe me, if you are doing a lot of Load Development (e.g., using the Turret, as I am) and have to make four strokes for one completed round, you will look forward to sorting out the final recipes and gearing up the progressive.
Otherwise, I too think it comes down to extraneous elements--ego, obsessive-compulsive characteristics, and status in in-groups.
Jim H.
I have a "sore shoulder"--and believe me, if you are doing a lot of Load Development (e.g., using the Turret, as I am) and have to make four strokes for one completed round, you will look forward to sorting out the final recipes and gearing up the progressive.
Otherwise, I too think it comes down to extraneous elements--ego, obsessive-compulsive characteristics, and status in in-groups.
Jim H.
Hey Rusty / Dave.
Is the LCT really that good? I have been looking at this darn thing for a bit of time now. I would like to bless my Dad with one but I have no experience with one nor do I know anyone who owns one. All the people I know have Hornady's or Dillons, progressively speaking (I know, I know - LCT is an auto indexing turret, not a progressive). I may have to bite the bullet and buy one and if I don't like it, I can post it for sale.
I guess I had better tell my wife the great news...
Cheers
RustyFN
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Hey LGB how you doing?
I have been very happy with the classic turret. I have had it for two years now. The thing that gets to most people is the safety prime. It will need to be adjusted left to right to get lined up. Also I had a problem with it dragging primers back out of the cup. This was fixed by adding a washer under the bracket, some people have had to add two washers. The safety prime on mine has been flawless since I made these changes. I have thought about getting a progressive but I just can't justify spending the money on something I really don't need. I'm lucky and have plenty of time to reload. I can sit down for a few hours a couple of evenings and make 1,000 rounds a week no problem. Feel free to PM me if you want any detailed explanations and/or some pictures of anything that's not clear.
Rusty
Edit: there are also a lot of great video's on youtube showing the CT in operation.
I have been very happy with the classic turret. I have had it for two years now. The thing that gets to most people is the safety prime. It will need to be adjusted left to right to get lined up. Also I had a problem with it dragging primers back out of the cup. This was fixed by adding a washer under the bracket, some people have had to add two washers. The safety prime on mine has been flawless since I made these changes. I have thought about getting a progressive but I just can't justify spending the money on something I really don't need. I'm lucky and have plenty of time to reload. I can sit down for a few hours a couple of evenings and make 1,000 rounds a week no problem. Feel free to PM me if you want any detailed explanations and/or some pictures of anything that's not clear.
Rusty
Edit: there are also a lot of great video's on youtube showing the CT in operation.
DaveInFloweryBranchGA
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I can't add anything much to Rusty's comments, but yes, it really is that good. That said, I would NOT buy it without also buying the following:
Lee Safety prime - large/small kit
Lee Pro Auto Disk
Lee Riser for Pro Auto Disk
The above items really let you use the full potential of the LCT. Without them, you are going a lot slower loading wise and not getting everything out you can.
IF, in addition to loading pistol, you want to load rifle using extruded powders, add a Hornady case activated powder drop or an RCBS case activated powder drop and a RCBS Uniflow powder measure. This will allow you to get the full potential out of the press.
Once the above is bought, about the only thing more you might want to add for most applications are turrets and die sets. You could buy additional Pro Auto disks if you like convenience (they're certainly cheap enough), but you don't have to.
I should mention I feel strongly if you are going to own either a progressive or a turret, you should also own a good single stage as a companion press. You'll find lots of jobs for it and a single stage is hard to beat for those really long distance rounds (600 yards and up). The Lee Classic Cast single stage is about as good as it gets in a single stage unless you get a Forester/Bonanza Coax and even the Coax is no more flexible for a lot more money.
Regards,
Dave
Lee Safety prime - large/small kit
Lee Pro Auto Disk
Lee Riser for Pro Auto Disk
The above items really let you use the full potential of the LCT. Without them, you are going a lot slower loading wise and not getting everything out you can.
IF, in addition to loading pistol, you want to load rifle using extruded powders, add a Hornady case activated powder drop or an RCBS case activated powder drop and a RCBS Uniflow powder measure. This will allow you to get the full potential out of the press.
Once the above is bought, about the only thing more you might want to add for most applications are turrets and die sets. You could buy additional Pro Auto disks if you like convenience (they're certainly cheap enough), but you don't have to.
I should mention I feel strongly if you are going to own either a progressive or a turret, you should also own a good single stage as a companion press. You'll find lots of jobs for it and a single stage is hard to beat for those really long distance rounds (600 yards and up). The Lee Classic Cast single stage is about as good as it gets in a single stage unless you get a Forester/Bonanza Coax and even the Coax is no more flexible for a lot more money.
Regards,
Dave
skywalkrNCSU
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got my workbench done 
it isnt as nice as I could have done if I had tools and didnt have to rely on lowes for cutting all my pieces prior to assembly but it will get the job done.
it isnt as nice as I could have done if I had tools and didnt have to rely on lowes for cutting all my pieces prior to assembly but it will get the job done.
BullsEye10x
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Looks pretty good to me!
Sand the rough edges a bit, stain it the color of your choice, add a few coats of polyurethane, and that will make a downright nice piece of furniture!
Sand the rough edges a bit, stain it the color of your choice, add a few coats of polyurethane, and that will make a downright nice piece of furniture!
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