Anything more damaging than a 12 gauge with buckshot?

[Shawn Dodson]

Of course needle size Flechette's will go through a ballistic vest better then a load of buckshot.

When fired from a shotgun many flechettes will strike soft armor sideways and bounce off. Those that impact point forward don't penetrate very far - the tail fins snag in the armor and stop.

True, dat, but I find #1 buck ungodly hard to find...

https://www.gtdist.com/ProductDetail.aspx?PartNumber=FC-LE1321B

 

[WardenWolf]

Buckshot in general is very effective. It's hard to argue with a fist-sized combined hole. Even a slug isn't going to do that much overall damage in most cases. The only thing a slug can do that pellets generally cannot is turn cover into concealment. And even if the person is wearing body armor, a slug will break bones behind said body armor and may even kill just from that even if it does not penetrate.

 

[Officers'Wife]

Can I fire 48 rounds out I my AR in 30 seconds? I can do it in less than 20....

By the same token, I can empty my 11 shot shotgun in under 5 seconds.... A little better than 6 shots in 30 seconds

You are much better at changing magazines than I am.

If I tried shooting the Browning that fast my last shot would probably be a 60 to 80 angle.

 

[allaroundhunter]

You are much better at changing magazines than I am.

If I tried shooting the Browning that fast my last shot would probably be a 60 to 80 angle.

My mag changes are pretty quick, but I also have a 48 round magazine.

Competitive shooting requires good recoil control and fast follow up shots.

 

[meanmrmustard]

I posted on page 1, didn't read the whole thread and if this has been mentioned I missed it.

Any shotgun, 12 or 20 ga shooting slugs or buckshot loads are going to generate 25-30 ft lbs of recoil depending on indivdual guns and loads. That is 300 win mag recoil levels. I find it amusing at how many will tell novice shooters they need a shotgun for protection, but emphatically steer veteran shooters away from any magnum loading for hunting because of excessive recoil.

An AR with a more effectve soft point bullet generates around 5 ft lbs of recoil by comparison.

Have you fired a semi auto shotgun?

 

[splattergun]

Everyone needs a 12ga 3" shotgun. Shooting 00 buck for home defense, slugs for the occasional black bear (as OP mentioned) and cheap skeet shot for plinking, not to mention actually hunting a variety of critters with the thing. A truly multi-use weapon.

just my tuppence