AR-15 Bushmasters

Are Bushmaster AR's good

  • yes

    Votes: 93 87.7%
  • no, please support your reason

    Votes: 13 12.3%

  • Total voters
    106
  • Poll closed .
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No I don't currently shoot 75 grain bullets, nor do I currently use an M4 for defense purposes, I use a 12 gauge Mossberg 500.
Good enough is just fine right?
Chill a bit OK --- I never claimed to be an AR guru....and I didn't think this was AR15.com:neener:
I don't think even the military uses 75 grain bullets ? Maybe but I haven't heard about it.
No one has answered my question about M4 ramps being due to the often abused magazines the military sometimes use. Does anyone actually know?
 
I voted yes. I would bet you couldn't tell the differnce in overall function and accuracy between my Bushy and my others AR15s. My Bushy is a A2 with the heavy barrel.
 
tommygunn, no, that wasn't the reason for the incorporation of M4 ramps.
Magazines are an expendable item in service.
They go bad, you exchange them.
 
Give up? Sorry I just have a hard time letting people pass along the amount of mis-information I often see in AR threads. There are a lot of shooters out there who are just getting started and they deserve better than to be told that junk isn't really junk.
 
Good enough is just fine right?

It is for me. I use my AR for purely recreational reasons. If the bushmaster varminter upper I picked up for a really low price breaks, I'll spend less time fixing it than I would reading all of this post. :)
 
M4Feed Ramps

I maybe wrong on this. I was told the M4 feed ramps were made just for that, M4's. The faster rate of fire could/would cause some rounds to nose dive a little when being stripped from the mag by the bolt to feed the next round. I was also told that some of the very early XM 15 shorties used in Vietnam had the bottom lugs modified to prevent this too.
 
My Bushmaster has performed very well for the last 4 years. I've shot every type of commercial ammo through it and never had a failure. It is accurate also; on a good day it will shoot clover leafs at a hundred yards with a red dot, when I can do my part. I just hope that Remington will continue to do a good job...my thoughts are that they will screw it up though. Look what they've done to the Remington Model 700...not the same quality it once was...my guess is they'll do the same thing to the Bushy's they produce!
 
Remington/Bushy

I think Remington (Cerberus/Freedom Group) will have it's ups & downs at first in the market but will come around. They are really pushing for military contracts other then the M24. They did a pretty good job with the RASS for the first time out and they are drawing from the pool of former military operators for designers.
 
Remington AR's

Yes you are correct. Also DPMS, Marlin and I think Cobb 50 cal too. I know it was one of the 50 cal rifle manufacturer's. I would expect some improvements too, since they started paying some attention to what operators are saying and not just engineers and CAD programs. I think the QC will (hope) move forward.
 
Are Bushmaster ARs good?

The problem with this thread starts with how the poll was set up - good or not good. Bushmaster doesn't rank with the best but it's hard to say it's not good, it's somewhere in between. I'd say it lands squarely in the category, so-so. If you find a nice sale and the BM gives you what you want, well consider it. If you already own one, that's fine, enjoy.

But if you're buying a new AR why pay $850+ for a rifle with so many deficiencies when you can spend the same and get more. You can spend even less for S&W or Spikes and get more - or you can kick in a little and get BCM or Daniel Defense, etc.

Sure the BM probably would work out but why get less for your money. I just built a new AR for about the cost of a Bushmaster yet it has few problems due to quality components, mainly a Daniel Defense upper.

It just makes sense to do the research and understand what you're buying. Then get the most for your money.
 
I have 2. One is a used AR/AK variant for just plinking around. The other is a Bushmaster A3 16" HBar upper on a RRA lower. This is my tactical shooter. NEVER a problem with either.

but be fore warned they will not shoot steel case ammo due to chambers..

I have shot many a round of Wolf and Silver Bear with zero issues. Those who have issues are, I would guess, usually a result of not cleaning or bad mags. I have heard every wives tail in the book about steel....It will heat up and get lacquer all over your gun and chamber causing FTE, Then clean it and make sure its chrome lined (Bushmaster is)......It will destry extractors....Then replace them......Its not accurate....Accurate enough for plinking.....Its too dirty...:rolleyes:...Again CLEAN THE GUN. There is nothing wrong with steel. If there was then why does half the world, if not more, use it?
 
Yes for Bushmaster

Mine has become a varminter in 24", 1 in 8 twist, fluted shaw barreled stainless, complete top and my stock lower. Alwas runs good but no hot firing with 30 round mag.
My original upper sat in the loading room for 5-6 years, ending up catching dust and bought all bushmaster lower and carrier and bolt and adj stock for a second working rifle, 2000 modle HBAR and 1 in 7 and 20 inch length.
I too have a 2004 Rem 700 in 1 in 12 twist, couldn't get a 1" group with 55 g PMC, it likes 40 to 45 g. but doesn't shoot like all my 60's rem 700.
Yes for BM
 
Yes steel works in all my ARs (6) to include a 14.5 Bushmaster with out issues with the exception of a Varminter and Predator. There is a reason for this as my previous post reference.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=548179 discusses why steel will not work in these match chambers. Also there are Manufacturers who if you look at your enclosed warranty card you void your warranty if steel is used. Hey I shoot steel too and figure the money saved will buy me one or two new ARs before something wears out. Many threads here about the ammo and certainly not trying to derail the thread but steel in the Predator or Varminter is not the way to go. Try it, find out for yourself and any doubts will be answered.
 
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My first post, just got a bushy patrolman carbine and the gas key is properly staked. I picked it up about three days ago. I love this cabine, and it shoots softer, is lighter than my brothers sr-556 by 1.5 pounds. I think mine was made april 2011 so this is after the remington take over.
 
I have had my Bushmaster Patrolman's Carbine for quite a few years and have 1000's of rounds through it without any problems.Of those who make the statement about not being MIL-Spec are actually going into combat with their AR's? If I wanted a MIL-Spec I would get my machine gun license and buy a MIL-Spec, but probably not a Colt.A MIL-Spec is not a AR-15 it is a M-16 or M-4, I burned up millions of rounds while in the Army for over 13+ years but Uncle Sugar was picking up the tab for ammo. I am perfectly happy with mine.:neener:
 
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I wasnt able to vote because the poll is closed but I agree that there should have been a middle ground somewhere. I think Bushmaster makes a fine target/hunting rifle but I dont care for them as a defense/duty rifle..... and I carry one for duty.:(

I have owned 3 Bushmasters myself and all of them performed great. However, I never really ran them through a tough shooting session.

At work I carry a Bushy M4 style rifle. My department normally goes with Colts but at the time there was a huge back order from Colt and some political pressure to buy rifles now. So we ended up with 100 new Bushamster rifles.

To carry a rifle for my dept you go through a 4 day 40 hour course that shoots somewhere near 4k rounds. In that class my trigger group broke twice and my safety bound up so much it took a lot of force to switch from safe to fire. Almost every Bushmaster that the department bought has had issues.

Recently we were training with LC M193 5.56 instead of our usual American Eagle .223. Several of the Bushies went down due to popped primers. This was caused by excessive pressures because the Bshies many times dont have actual 5.56 chambers.

I also had to have a tall front sight post installed because I was unable to sight my rifle in with the Bushamster carry handle.

On the other hand the Colts rarely have any problems. In fact I dont know a single officer with one that has had problems.

That being said my duty Bushy has never had a FTF or FTE and is a pretty accurate rifle. But I dont trust it and thats the reason I recently sold some other guns and spent the extra money to buy myself a Colt 6920 to switch over to.

I feel the Bushamsters are not made for the stresses that duty life can bring. If you plan on defending yourself with a rifle I would definitely look somewhere else.

For 700 - 800 bucks I think the Bushamster is a decent buy. Anything over that I believ you can do better.
 
ive had the opposite experience with our two than most encounter.

my first ar15 rifles were colt model 6700c's (2) not exactly bad rifles but stoppages occasionally through maybe 2k rds each.

sold them for reasons not related to their performance, and then down the road bought 2 bushmasters that have ran absolute 100% through apprx 7500rds each.

i keep them all clean.
 
the one bushmaster i fired was both reliable and very accurate. i think the the main people dissing bushmasters are the mods and members on m4carbineforum. they only recommend AR's made by site sponsors. not friendly at all either lol
 
what kwelz is trying to say, is that in his opinion, bushmasters are some of the finest ar platform rifles that he has ever seen, and frankly rates them right under knights rifles, and slightly above colt, daniel defense, and lewis machine.

dont hack on him just because he likes one thing, and someone else has had great luck with something entirely different.

EDIT: please strike the previous, as i thought he was someone else, but still, it is what it is....
 
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