AR-15, M-1 Garand or?

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Simply a choose and advise thread.

I'm looking to buying (or maybe building) another rifle or some kind of shooting setup after New Year's. Right now I'm looking at several different options, depending almost purely on whim and secondly on financial indicators (college student here).

So far I'm looking heavily at:
1) M-1 Garand. I am qualified to order one through the CMP, and am tempted to grab one and a case or two of ammo while the prices are still good and they're still available. I would use this for JC Garand matches and general shooting of a big, powerful old warhorse. (I'm a Highpower shooter who uses an AR-15 for "serious" matches.) Current price: $425 for a Field Grade + S&H

2) Mini-14 or 30. This would kind of be like a semi-auto equivalent of my Marlin .44. Fun to plink with, useful for generally putting holes in things, but otherwise serving no particular purpose other than to make $$ into noise. I'm leery of these due to accuracy reputation; it would be miserable to have a rifle I can outshoot. Current price around here: $579, OTD, + magazines and ammo.

3) AR-15 variant of some sort. Here I could get away "cheap" by building/buying just an upper to start with, which I can use on my match lower until I acquire a second lower. Generally would fit the same profile as the Mini, but I've already at least got magazines and the know-how to keep it working and have an expectation of at least reasonable accuracy. Price: Variable, depending on configuration, but generally $450-650 (from what I've seen).

4) .22LR Upper for my current match rifle. This would be for inexpensive short-range practice, when I don't want to reload. Very limited utility, but I like the idea of being able to shoot my Service Rifle in ANY indoor range or any 50-foot range I can find. Of course, this is a specialized tool, and not cheap. Price: $900-1000 for one that will shoot as good as it should. (At this point though, I'd almost have to suck it up and step up to an Anschutz or Walther smallbore rifle, for not much more money, and much simpler slow-fire shooting.)

It's too tough to decide! Eventually I will have one of each, but now the question is which one to get?!

Thanks all.
 
I would do the Garand while you can! They will end some day.

The AR build is always an option. However, you have time for that.

Pretty pricey upper for the .22 option. I would buy another rifle before I did that so I would put it 3rd on my list. I think you could find a nice used target rifle for that price.

I'm not a Ruger Mini fan so they would be last on my list.
 
A service grade Garand is a good option.

You could pass over the AR since you already have one for service rifle competition.

The CMP has 1903 Anschutz rifles for $1125. Probably a better option than a Compass Lake 22LR upper.
 
I'd start with "Least likely to be available in the future" and buy down the list towards "Most likely to be available in the future."

The Garand seems like it would be the highest priority since CMP is running low on good Garands and even the ones they do have aren't at the same quality level as a few years ago.

After that, I would go for the AR since it will be a likely target of any legislation designed to limit firearms ownership. The Mini-14 may be a target as well; but the last bill I saw specifically excluded the Mini by name even though it was sponsored by Carolyn McCarthy.

Finally I'd get the .22LR upper; because it will probably be available the longest.
 
A field grade Garand isn't going to get you very good scores in high power competition. Most of the barrels they are shipping now gauge a 7 on the TE and the crowns are worn.
 
A field grade Garand isn't going to get you very good scores in high power competition. Most of the barrels they are shipping now gauge a 7 on the TE and the crowns are worn.

I've never seen a field grade with a TE higher than 5. All the rifles I saw at the Western Games were field grade by definition because of the MW or exterior appearance (worn finish). I'm sure there are some really bad field grades, but to say that most of the field grades are gauging a 7 is misinformation.

As far as a field grade not being good for high power, that's also subjective. We have all seen rack grade (as defined by the CMP) guns at JCG matches that can easily clean the SR target with LC or HXP ammo. I doubt that the gun's barrel condition will limit you in XTC, but rather, the sight adjustments and the stock and barrel contour.

As far as quality of the current supply of Garands, yes, the quality is dropping in terms of appearance only (and some barrel condition). If the stocks weren't beat up and were walnut, and the finish on the guns were 75% or better, those field and rack grades you see would easily be service grades .
 
Get a Garand. Like everyone says, they won't be around forever and you'll kick yourself if you miss out. They'll only keep going up in value (and subsequently in price) and you'll never regret getting one.

Once you have one, you can upgrade it from there if you so choose. Parts are available all over the place. New barrels are readliy available. After college when you have some $$$, you can send if off to one of the Garandmasters and get it built into a nice JCG-legal match gun if you want. But first you gotta have one to start with.
 
Looks like the Garand is the winner!

I guess if I had thought about it more, a serviceable M-1 and a case of ammo will set me back in the $600 range, which is reasonable. And yes, if I really wanted a good shooter for CMP games, I'm not above a rebarrel and trigger job.

A field grade Garand isn't going to get you very good scores in high power competition. Most of the barrels they are shipping now gauge a 7 on the TE and the crowns are worn.

Missed the part about the match-grade AR, eh? ;) That rifle will clean every target on the course, with room to spare. If only the trigger-jockey could do that reliably. :scrutiny: The M-1 is for games and general shooting/collecting.

The last time I shot a Garand match I used a 1903A3. Made it into the Silver badge category, with a botched rapid-fire reload (and resultant ugly score). Scored a 93 and some offhand though, tied for first offhand score that day! :D
 
The CMP has some more "service grade" Garands in-or did last week. I don't know how these are going to spec out (as I understand most are in the 2-3 million serial number range), but the two I got last years were in perfect firing condition (1 TE and 1 MW).
That plus 960 rounds of ammo will cost a bit more than $600, but worth it.
 
I just got one of the new service grade garands. 300K serial nuber and it looks HAWT! The rifle plus the ammo on clips and bandoliers (to wear around the house of course :D ) set me back a little over $700.
 
I'm jealous Bob. Both of the ones I got (plus an H&R receiver I built into a .308 Garand) were in the 5 million range. Means they were produced the year before I was born, but saw no action.
Still the rifle itself is a piece of history, and one we should all remember.
 
CMP just started going thru a USGI shipment of 50,000 Garands. Yes, another 50,000 Garands. That's why they just started reintroducing the USGI service grade. My fear would be the new congress and the power they are going to be able to throw around. The CMP might be gone come January. If I start hearing rumors of that, I might just have to max out the credit card to save some of our war heros, and of course, piss off the wife :evil:
 
You can always throw in the extra cash to get a new barrel and stock from the CMP as well.
 
There are few times in life when the opportunity to own a piece of history is offerred. Every WWII vet I've talked to still speaks affectionately about this rifle. When you handle a Garand, you'll want to shoot it right away. Don't resist that temptation any longer. Get a CMP Service Grade and ammo now.

You'll never regret it and all the other options will wait.
 
Well the bad news is, I was just at the CMP website, and they are out of Service grade again (as of yesterday).
They do have barreled recievers for H&R or Springfield. If I did not already have three, I might jump on that.
 
Give it a few weeks, like I said, they have 50,000 to sort thru. Don't make a quick decision on this if cash flow for guns is hard to come by like it is for me.
 
go for the Garand

you can always get an AR variant later.

I bought a field grade this spring, just before the price increase.

Beat up stock, finish decent (IMO, should let my Garand-a-holic friend look it over in detail) 5,9nn,nnn serial number (which I asked for Korean era, or high serial number) Springfield Armory.

ME & TE < 2! It's a much better shooter than I am (but I'm working on it, and hope to go the next NC Appleseed shoot.)
 
As a longtime mini-14 owner trying to unload my mini for an AR, I'd suggest that when you get a .223, I'd choose the AR over the mini, unless the mini's traditional appearance is important to you.
 
Get a garand, there going up in price not down.

I just got 3, 2 service grade and 1 field. They said my order went through so i think i make the cut off.
 
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