AR Bullpups?

[ocmechanx]

Has anybody actually used or has one of these , hows the accuracy, and reliability comparitivly speakin to other compact assalt rifles?

Bryan

 

[nbkky71]

The only AR15 bullpup I remember seeing was the M17S by Bushmaster.

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/m17s/

I got to run a few rounds through one many, many, years ago. I honestly didn't draw any overly positive or negative conclusions from it.

I'm a lefty so bullpup-style rifles don't suit me well.

 

[Correia]

The Bushmaster wasn't an AR15 internally at all. It is a lot more like an AR18.

You don't normally see bullpuped AR action guns, because the buffer tube extends into the stock. ACE has a prototype that they showed at SHOT that uses a return spring above the barrel. It is the only actual bullpup AR that I've ever seen. It was a rough prototype, but I was impressed with it.

 

[hkmp5g17]

Here's a pic of the Ace bullpup.

 

[MechAg94]

Is it just me or does that look like a really awkward rifle? Maybe I am just on the traditional side.

 

[ALS]

I have one of the Bushmaster M17's and it is just as accurate as any of my AR's. The two down sides is it is one it is a scope only gun. The second is it has a open or egg crate butt on the stock. It can get annoying to fire even with .223's. It digs in to the shoulder on recoil. I may have one of the problem guns but I had to modify the recoil system slightly to get the gun to fire reliably. The whole system is held in place with two C clips. I had to cut the grooves where these C clips are placed deeper to get them to hold under fire. So far so good. I find it a comfortable gun to fire once I covered the butt with a piece of 1/4 inch rubber foam.

 

[Thefabulousfink]

Here's a pic of the Ace bullpup.

That is one ugly duckling, even for a bullpup.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

They need a longer forearm on the Ace bullpup. Not much point in having a vertical foregrip mounted about 2" in front of the pistol grip. I've never been a big bullpup fan myself; but finally getting to shoot a full-auto AUG with a 16" barrel definitely has me rethinking that.

Nobody has yet solved the trigger issue in a satisfactory way though. It seems like all the mechanical linkage involved almost always guarantees a pretty mediocre trigger on any bullpup.

 

[mattf7184]

More info on the ACE:

http://www.riflestocks.com/ar15.htm#ARBP

 

[ALS]

Nobody has yet solved the trigger issue in a satisfactory way though. It seems like all the mechanical linkage involved almost always guarantees a pretty mediocre trigger on any bullpup.

"DITTO"