Arabs Celebrate Strikes On U.S.

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Arabs Celebrate Strikes On U.S.

Associated Press

November 3, 2003

CAIRO, Egypt - Across the Arab world, strikes like the deadly downing of a U.S. helicopter are applauded by many as resistance to occupation and proof that Iraqis were not completely humiliated by the ease of the U.S. led victory over Saddam Hussein.

The reaction is not surprising given prewar opposition among many Arabs to the invasion of Iraq. At a meeting in Damascus Sunday, foreign ministers from countries bordering Iraq and others in the region repeated calls on the United States to restore order in Iraq.

In Egypt, U.S. Ambassador C. David Welch has accused Egyptian commentators of spending too much time criticizing the United States and too little exploring how Iraqis might benefit from the fall of Saddam. Egyptian journalists responded by declaring a boycott of Welch.

"Iraq is now building the glory of the (Arab) community," Mustafa Bakri, editor-in-chief of the Egyptian weekly Al-Osboa, wrote Sunday, referring to the resistance.

Samir Ragab, editor of the Egyptian daily Al-Gomhouria, lauded the Iraqis in his column for fighting back.

"Every citizen who lives in Iraq, be they Baathist or anti-Baathist, whether they support or oppose Saddam, will stand up and shout at the top of his lungs: `We will chase the Americans and their followers until they leave our home ashamed and defeated.'"

In Saudi Arabia, Al-Watan newspaper said last week that U.S. war planners did not foresee that although "the Iraqi people hated Saddam Hussein, they also hate having a foreign presence on their land."

"Even though such attacks are not welcomed because they took innocent Iraqi souls, they have, however, delivered a strong message to decision-makers in the White House that they are no longer in control of security in Iraq, and that the victory in the classic war does not mean total control over Iraq," Al-Watan said.

The comments followed one of the bloodiest weeks in Iraq. On Oct. 26, ground-fired rockets slammed into a Baghdad hotel housing hundreds of staffers for the coalition administration, killing one person. The next day, three dozen people were killed in a series of suicide bombings in Baghdad that devastated the international Red Cross headquarters and four Iraqi police stations.

Sunday was the deadliest day for American troops in their six-month occupation of Iraq, with a U.S. Chinook helicopter hit by a missile and crashing west of Baghdad. At least 16 soldiers were killed and more than 20 wounded.

Iraqi villagers displayed charred pieces of wreckage like trophies to reporters and in nearby Fallujah, center of opposition to the Americans, townspeople celebrated on the streets.

Some Arab observers are disturbed to see international aid workers and Iraqis attacked along with the Americans.

Under the headline: "More than a crime: a political mistake!" Talal Salman, publisher of Lebanon's As-Safir newspaper, urged Iraqis to choose their targets carefully after the Red Cross attack.

"There is a huge difference between the bombing which targeted a hotel known to be the base for occupation officials and their followers, and the crimes of mass murder that took place ... against the Red Cross and Iraqi police stations and groups of Iraqi citizens," Salman wrote. "Precision in specifying the target is the sharpest resistance weapon."

The Emirates' Gulf News said attacks that do not target coalition forces cannot be called resistance.

"To attack humanitarian organizations, which are trying to help Iraq recover, is an exercise in trying to create terror and confusion, with purely destructive intent," the newspaper said. "These attacks will not help Iraq, and will not solve the country's political future. They should stop."
 
We need to re-examine our foreign aid to the countries of the Middle East. I believe, Egypt for example gets several billion per year.
 
This is not celebrated by all Arabs. The article is grossly over-generalizing.

I am not sure of the point of stating that parts of the burned wreckage were shown like trophies. This is significant, why? Is it in comparison to the US releasing video and still images of Hussein's dead sons?

Westerners and Arabs have been in continued conflicts for a long period of time. The US is simply the current focus. Neither side is free from doing wrong.

So of course for those who don't like us, they are going to be happy when things don't go in our favor...just as many Americans are happy when things don't go in the favor of Arabs. Neither perspective is particularly newsworthy.
 
This situation is just going to get worse.

As I understand it, there was a government in exile for Iraq, with a constitution and all that, ready to go.

I don't understand why, in the last 6 months, we haven't registered massive iraqi voters, put forth at least one proposed constitution, and organized elections to happen sometime in the next couple of months.

Let them vote on a constitution, and start electing leaders.

Nothing would do more to move us from the status of "occupying force we can't trust" to "facilitators of a democratic Iraq" in Iraqi minds.

You cannot have a insurgent war without the support of the people. Unless we want another vietnam, we need to diffuse that threat and quickly become the people who removed Saddam, rather than an occupying army that the average Iraqi doesn't understand and doesn't trust.
 
We need to re-examine our foreign aid to the countries of the Middle East. I believe, Egypt for example gets several billion per year.

We need Egypt on our side because they control the Suez Canal which is used to move tons of military materiel and troops quickly to the region.
 
Don Galt,

Do you really believe a democratic constutional government would be able to hold itself together right now in Iraq?

To put it more bluntly, do you really think the Iraqi people are capable of self government right now?

To expect people with no sense of freedom and no previous self government to suddenly create out of the blue a democratic, stable government is a little demanding.

Iraq will either become a puppet state of the US for the forseeable future, or a bloodbath for its own people as the ethnic groups fight it out.

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Double Naught, while all muslims didn't celebrate, I suspect that a large percentage of those in fundamentalist countries did. If you recall after Sept 11, CNN briefly showed Palestinians celebrating the deaths of our innocent men, women, and children. They were dancing in the streets, and passing out candy. Do you remember that? I saw it with my own eyes.

Then CNN and the liberal media realized this made arab nations look bad... so all that footage suddenly disappeared.

You say neither side is free from doing wrong. You got that right, but after Sept 11, anything bad that happens to the islamofascists is well deserved.
 
The Iraqis are celebrating as we would be celebrating if invaders of our country were harmed.

The Saudis aren't our friends so it is of no consequence if they are celebrating as it is expected. Same with Egypt.

It's time for everyone here to go out and rent "Red Dawn" and watch it one more time.
 
Ask me sometime about the "Wheel of Misfortune", my solution to the continued attacks on our soldiers. Anyway, here's the short version:

We lay out the law of the land concerning ourselves after setting a date for elections. We've already appropriated the monies and awarded contracts for the rebuild - all good Bush supporters. Let's get the liaison engine running now, and get more on board.

We'll hold up our end, but if there are attacks against any one of us again... then, military, civilian, otherwise:

Somebody in higher military command, tired of PC nonsense, spins the wheel and makes a phone call to the town selected by the Wheel of Misfortune.

USE YOUR IMAGINATION TO DESCRIBE YOUR SANCTIONS.

Mine ARE way, way too EVIL.

:evil: :fire:

We should give them a lesson - the only language these animals understand - BLOOD!!!!

PS. Every time I see a ranting, frenzied crowd of chanting Iraqies, my trigger finger twitches. These people make me :fire: :evil: beyond mad!!

Oh, where are all these weapons coming from that are destroying our people every day?
 
People in THIS country celebrate these things too. And some of them are among the "educated" and popular people around here. Think college proffesors, celebrities, government (in the closet for the most part). I find that FAR more troubling that what people in the middle east think
 
I predict that the "Iraqis celebrated US deaths" will meet with the same response as the "Palestinians celebrate 9/11" in the mainstream media.

Also, in my opinion, many leftists also glorify in our troop deaths, and that the Democratic presidential candidates skirt pretty close to it at times in their efforts to peg trouble on Pres. Bush...
 
What's that old Arab proverb?

Me against my brother;
My brother and I against my uncle;
All of us against the world.

Many Arabs seem to anyone hate Arabs of different tribes/backgrounds, but they hate the rest of the world more.
 
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