Ardesa TRACKER?

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Same shop is selling the Yukon for more or less the same price :confused:
I don't know which one to get :D

Both are .50 cal, both can take 150g.
From what I can tell both have a 24" barrel (my supplier says the Tracker is 590mm and the Yukon 610mm) but the Ardesa site says 24"
Both 1in28" twist, both use a 209 primer.

I guess performance wise both are the same?
So I guess it's down to looks unless one of the mechanisms is better than the other.

Opinions?


Yukon

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Tracker

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Performance wise they're pretty much the same.
The Yukon is a little more user friendly.
It's almost the same as the relabeled Remington Genesis that was very popular here before it was discontinued, except the Yukon has a 2-4 inch shorter barrel.
The main complaint with the drop block is that it may get sticky with residue between shots but it's easy enough to wipe off.
The drop block actions have been discontinued here, but the Genesis is well known for being a very accurate rifle.
If there's an electro-nickel barrel available then that's a real plus. It's a very durable coating that's easier to clean because it's quite slick.
The Tracker is an older but simpler design that's very reliable, even the older models that were only fitted with a #11 percussion nipple. The improved 209 version does produce more blow back and is slightly more difficult to cap, especially if a scope is mounted.
 
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Because the Yukon has a shorter receiver, it's more compact for the same length of barrel.
Is it nickel?
Otherwise it could simply be a matter of stock comfort, the trigger pull weight and weight of the gun.
Will it be scoped? That would add weight.
Sometimes a slightly heavier gun is desirable for handling recoil.
While the Yukon would be a little easier handling.
The newer .50 caliber sabots that fit the lighter .40/10MM bullets, and lighter weight .44/.45 saboted bullets wouldn't produce as much felt recoil with heavier powder charges.
The choice between them is mostly based on personal preferences I guess. :rolleyes:
 
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The Yukon is yeah :) The Tracker is blued but available in 'stainless' as the supplier calls it for $15 more.
 
The last things that I can add is to consider the moving parts.
The more moving parts then the more powder fouling that they accumulate.
Smaller moving parts can be tougher to keep clean, to disassemble to clean and to replace.

If doing a real lot of shooting then the Yukon might have more parts that can be problematic or wear out.
I have heard about some Genesis trigger parts needing replacement which aren't even available here.
While the Tracker has been around for a much longer period of time.
It's probably the simpler and more durable design.
But maybe it has a slightly slower lock time.
I know that the Tracker stock is also pretty comfortable.
Myself, I like the Tracker more.
While the Yukon design is probably more well liked by others just for being the more modern design.

Here's the Traditions Yukon manual:

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/cmsAdmin/uploads/YUKON-Manual.pdf

Here's the Tracker manual which shows that it's a much simpler design:

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/cmsAdmin/uploads/Traditions-InLine-Inst-manual-FIT-10.pdf
 
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Let me admit that I'm biased because I have several rifles that
are more like the Tracker including a Tracker style 12 gauge
shotgun that uses an #11 cap.

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I quite like the look of the Tracker stock.
I would have thought he Yukon would have the slower lock time? Looks like a hammer like on a revolver while the Tracker is more like a bolt action.
It's not easy choosing :(
If I was to get the Tracker would I be better off to get the 'stainless' version?

Last question, would a breach plug wrench come with them? or is that something I'll need to get?
 
The striker bolt of the Tracker has a longer distance to travel before it hits the primer.
It's a very strong and fast striker, but it's still farther away than the hammer needs to move.
But the Trackers usually have a light trigger pull.
You would need to check to actually compare them.
 
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I ordrerd the Yukon in the end :)
Also a Hawke 3-9*50 mil dot scope and a Lee Improved Minie Ball Bullet Mold 500-360M
 
Turned out the Yukon is unavailable for 3 months from my supplier dispite their website saying it was in stock :cuss:
Anyway they offerd me the Tracker in nickle and gave me next day delivery and it arrived today :cool:
I got a set of weaver syle mounts/rings too.
Hopefully over the weekend I'll find some time to cast some bullets and bore sight the gun. I had to remove the rear sight as it was in the way of the scope. Would it be a good idea to get some small screws to blank off the holes?
One minor thing, trigger pull seems kinda heavy maybe it will get better with wear?

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That's rig looks sweet! :)
I wouldn't worry about the empty sight screw holes, applying oil once in a while will work. But if you can find filler screws than all the better.
How heavy do you estimate the trigger pull weight to be?
Is it crisp?
Maybe you can find the right location to apply some oil until it breaks in.
I had a similar CVA rifle that had a trigger pull that was so light that it was scary. It was too light for hunting or shooting with gloves on in cold weather, that's for sure.
The scope covers will protect the front lens from spilled powder during loading. Some folks use a flip up lens cover. But they're as optional as those filler screws and you can get by without them.
A cotton ball with alcohol can be used to gently swab the lens clean, and another cotton ball to dry it.
Don't forget to apply some lube to the breech plug.
You must be anxious to shoot it. Enjoy!
 
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Nice. I think the increased lock time argument is BS. The hammer travel is very short on the Tracker, just like the Thunder Hawk.
The old Mossberg .22 rifles used a linear hammer like the Tracker/TH, and I've never missed a squirrel or rabbit with them.
 
Found the time to cast some bullets :)

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The mold is a Lee Improved Minie Ball Bullet Mold 500-360M.
How tight should these be when loading? They arn't loose but I was expecting them to be a little tighter, It needs a few pounds of pressure on the ramrod (this is my 1st muzzle loader rifle, maybe its just me :) ). I pushed one half way down the barrel and looked down it (breach plug was removed) and I could still see gaps around the bullet, I guess these disappear when you actually shoot the gun and the skirt expands? The bullet cannot move buy itself so I guess its OK?

Anyway heres a small vid I made of casting a few (and waits for people to tell me how I'm doing it wrong :D )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2WiDhCybRU&hd=1
 
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They should be tried first to see how they work.
The thread below mentions several methods that can be used to slightly increase the diameter of a conical if necessary.
Knurling them with a file as Smokin'Joe suggests in Post #10 would be one of the easiest ways to bump up their diameter without making them much more difficult to load.


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7703373#post7703373
 
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