Are Revolvers inferior to a Glock?

[Sam1911]

A quality revolver from a reputable manufacturer should last just as long as the glock in round count. I'd put the GP-100 up against any glock you want.

Oh, the irony! As I've pointed out several times, we have one member here who shot his GP100 something between 25,000 and 50,000 rounds (guess he lost count!) and it was so worn out that Ruger refused to service it. Unexpected? Yes, but it happened.

Glocks will last A LOT longer than that. Easily twice, probably three times that number.

 

[fatcat4620]

Why is every glock positive countered with a different revolver make/brand. Is there not on specific revolver that can take the Glock?

 

[Coal Dragger]

FatCat4620,

I appreciate the effort, but frankly I would never use pressure data published on the web from some unkown source that claims to have asked the manufacturer what was safe. There is no way to verify the accuracy of the statement, unless I were inclined to call Winchester, and I'm not sure they would disclose the info or not. I would and do trust Hodgdon to have accurate pressure data, and if they say 46,000 and some change is pretty much maximum, then I would be inclined to go with that data. I have a feeling that this level is dictated by what the guns can reliably handle, not the brass.

At any rate if I had to pick between a high quality revolver and an auto pistol for hot rodding a cartridge to the limits, and expect the gun to live with it....I would pick the revolver. I think you would too. Don't get me wrong I like autos too, but they lack the brute strength of a heavy duty magnum revolver.

 

[fatcat4620]

How many .454s can you fire in a revolver before it craps out? 50,000 100,000?

 

[Coal Dragger]

Don't know the answer to that, depends on how hot they are loaded and how well I bother to maintain the weapon. I will predict that my Freedom Arms will last longer running 300gr bullets at 1600fps, than an auto pistol of similar weight and size would doing the same thing. I guess you could try with a Desert Eagle, but frankly they are huge unwieldy and probably still can't get there even in .50AE.

I suppose you could try it with a .45 Super or .460 Rowland, but you'll still fall short of power level if you stay within sane limits. Feel free to try though, take pictures for us.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Are Revolvers inferior to a Glock?

Definately

 

[fatcat4620]

Talk about power, a glock 18 can put down over 16,000 foot pounds of energy in full auto bliss faster than you can fire a few rounds out of your wheel gun.

 

[Coal Dragger]

FatCat4620,

Thank you for making the classic mall ninja argument. Not only do you use a comparison utilizing a full auto weapon that 99% of shooters will never see, but you somehow want to equate putting a lot of rounds down range with being effective. In case you have never hunted, I can't think of any states that allow using fully automatic weapons for hunting. Furthermore I can't think of any that allow 9X19 for big game hunting since it can't meet minimum power requirements.

Then we can talk about making those 33 rounds hit the target, which is honestly not real likely. Previously in my life I gained a fair amount of experience with automatic weapons, and unless they are belt fed off of a bipod or tripod, I wouldn't count on many rounds connecting. I am far more interested in one well placed round and having it be effective on target. I guess I am pretty silly not considering the tacti-cool advantage a difficult to control, illegal to hunt with, fully automatic underpowered machine pistol would give me when big game hunting.

 

[fatcat4620]

Ok Coal, You win your .454 casul is better in every way than a glock. If you ever come out of the black hills and into these things we call a city I will show you that some guns are not meant for hunting (cough fud). Also the OP never said anything about hunting so I dont know where you get these wild ideas from.

 

[fatcat4620]

OK, so glock frame should last a few hundred years and the french (help me god) make a damn good revolver so I would have to call it a tie. Any one agree?

 

[Sam Cade]

Furthermore I can't think of any that allow 9X19 for big game hunting since it can't meet minimum power requirements.

Kentucky.

I've killed about a dozen deer (and several very surprised coyotes)with a 9x19.
200lb whitetails flop over obligingly.


.25acp is legal here too, but I'm not willing to jump out of a tree stand, knock the deer down and cram my great-grandfathers baby browning in his ear.

 

[Deaf Smith]

Are Revolvers inferior to a Glock?

Depends on the revolver and the load you shot.

A S&W 19, Combat Magnum, will full house loads, won't last as long as a Glock 19, round for round.

But a Ruger GP-100, or S&W L frame, with .38s, I have no doubt will last as long, if not longer.

Deaf

 

[Coal Dragger]

fatcat4620,

Wow not too often I converse with someone as intelligent as you are (not a compliment more of a comment on your relative intelligence). Believe it or not I have lived in large metro areas, I also understand that auto loading firearms have advantages as duty weapons or self defense weapons. Far be it from me to understand this, what with my service as a United States Marine infantryman, nope I never ever learned about fighting with firearms. I guess that tour I did in Iraq in 2004 was a complete fluke that I made it home in one piece with a few been there done that ribbons and a cool t-shirt (yeah OK there was no cool t-shirt). Yep I sure am a "fud" as you would put it. Better go get me a silly hat and a shotgun, and turn me loose on those rascally rabbits.

I would attempt to explain to you that firearms are not a one size fits all jobs kind of tool, but you have made it abundantly clear that you don't understand. Not that it matters much, but I own more semi-auto pistols than I do revolvers, and I like them for applications that they excel at. I also like revolvers for certain applications like hunting and general field use where a high level of power and accuracy are desirable in a portable handy package. At any rate please have fun thinking about your nearly impossible to obtain Glock 18 and all the super tacti-cool things you could do with it like spray 33-34 rounds of 9X19 out of the barrel very quickly.

 

[Coal Dragger]

Sam Cade,

Good info, in South Dakota 500 foot pounds is the minimum energy requirement for handguns to be used on deer, antelope, and turkey (yes you can shoot turkey here with handgun or rifle). This requirement is for ammunition that is factory rated to deliver at least that much energy. Elk must be hunted with a firearm using ammo factory rated at no less than 1,700 foot pounds period, and it can not be smaller in bore diameter than .243. A .454 Casull qualifies for elk, although loaded to that level it is not terribly pleasant to shoot.

Mountain lions, big horn sheep, mountain goats, and buffalo are absent from the firearms and archery minimum equipment lists for some reason.

 

[Sam Cade]

Good info, in South Dakota 500 foot pounds is the minimum energy requirement for handguns to be used on deer, antelope, and turkey (yes you can shoot turkey here with handgun or rifle).

For deer any centerfire is legal. For elk and bear we have odd requirements....and this is one area where A revolver beats a Glock.

A handgun with a barrel length of six (6) inches, or longer,
with a bore diameter of .270 inches or larger, when
firing a bullet, producing at least 550 ft/lbs of energy at
100 yards.

 

[Sam1911]

Guess we exhausted this one.