Are you more accurate with cap and ball or conversion/cartridges?

1KPerDay

Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2006
Messages
20,861
Location
Happy Valley, UT
I tried my Pietta Remington NMA “Sheriff” 5.5” .44 and my Pietta 1851 .44 “Navy” with three different loose powder/ball loads and three .45 Colt loads using conversion cylinders.

TLDR; The Remington was almost exactly the same accuracy-wise with both cap/ball and cartridges; while the Colt was much more accurate with cap and ball. I only shot one group with each load and I’m not the greatest bench shooter so take it for what it’s worth. But it was sort of interesting. Took way longer than I thought it would and I was bored shooting paper by the end LOL.

Wanna see? Video for any interested:

 
My open top conversions are accurate as all get out. It took me some figuring out on a load for my pietta 1860 sheriffs to shoot to point of aim but a 250ishgrain slug with 6.2 grains red dot or 8.6 grains unique ended up being the answer to my issues.

It also shoots extremely well with 40 grains FFF black powder
 
I would have gotten bored and quit after one round.:D I don't really have a conversion. My RM came from the factory that way.
I need to get the factory conversions from Remington, Colt/Richards and Colt/Richards-Mason. Those are my next purchases hopefully.

I’m also thinking of trying to convert one of my 1860s with the Kirst and installing their ejector doohickey.
 
I need to get the factory conversions from Remington, Colt/Richards and Colt/Richards-Mason. Those are my next purchases hopefully.

I’m also thinking of trying to convert one of my 1860s with the Kirst and installing their ejector doohickey.

It's a pretty straightforward job, I doubt you'll have any issues doing it. I've made two 1860 sheriffs into complete kirst conversions with ejectors
 
Am I more accurate with conversion cylinders?

YES!!! LOL That's all I got except for 1 Pietta Model P!! They're all virtual "tack drivers"! I just met a buddy at a range yesterday to throw a lot of money down range!! It was the first time he'd ever fired a SA and he had a great time!!!
I took a Dragoon ( the one with the ejector rod), the Mod.P and my pair of '60 ACP's. I hadn't shot my latest ACP yet so yesterday was its maiden voyage. He told me his favorite was "Beauty and the Beast" and I had to agree with him. So that's another 70 rounds down range with "BatB" which included some +p's!! She IS a beast!!

Mike
 
I don't know if you can make fair comparison as too many variables with bullet weight/shape/ powder charge etc. My oldest pair on Uberti 51 Navy Kirst conversions were very accurate no matter what I stuffed in them. A pair of Uberti Dragoons just loved 42 grs of Goex 2F/round ball but would shoot them about 3" left. The same guns with 45 Colt cylinders were almost as accurate but printed dead on for windage. That's for the guns. If your question is about personal shooting accuracy, my Navies feel the same to me no matter what cylinder is in them.
 
Last edited:
My ROA with 30 grains of fffg, A .457 rb, some grease on top is about identical to the results with the Howell 45 Colt conversion and a 215 grain button nose .454 bullet and 5 grains of Bullseye.
An old Euro arms Remington 36 does quite differently with a .380 rb, versus a conical from a reproduction civil war mould.
My best results with the Ruger are with the Lee 45-220RN made for the ROA. Four fg makes itsing.
 
My best shooter has been my Pietta 51 navy but my RM is it's equal or better. I've never put it on paper. I guess I should as much as I hate the idea.
 
Since I don't have any conversion cylinders I can't really answer that, but Most of my cap and ball revolvers are more accurate than I am. Just started working with a new to me bullet for a .36 Navy that shows some real promise.
 
Back
Top