Armed robbers get a taste of their own medicine

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From the Durham Herald-Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-433637.html):

Man opens fire on attempted armed robbers after work

BY ERIC OLSON : The Herald-Sun
Jan 9, 2004 : 10:27 pm ET

DURHAM -- The table was turned on a pair of armed robbers when one of their would-be victims opened fire on them Thursday night at the Oxford Commons shopping center.

Kelly Royster, 21, a five-month employee of Nationwide Warehouse, said he and a female co-worker were leaving work around 8:15 p.m. when the two robbers approached them.

The pair went straight for the woman, who was carrying the night's deposit, and demanded the bank bag, Royster said.

Since the business is behind the 3500 N. Roxboro Road shopping center and in close proximity to several apartment complexes, Royster said he had anticipated getting robbed at some point and had armed himself for the eventuality.

"I just pulled it out and got to shooting at them," Royster said. "I was trying to keep track of how many I was firing, because I only had one clip."

The robbers, apparently shocked by the turn of events, threw their gun at Royster and took off shouting for mercy, he said. A van parked nearby proved to be their salvation.

"They threw their pistol at me, they were screaming, 'Let me go, let me go,' " Royster said. "I could have hit them if I shot through the van, but I didn't want to shoot out a window."

The robbers hid behind a Dumpster, occasionally looking out at Royster, he said.

"They wouldn't come out from behind the Dumpster," he said. "Every time he ducked his head around the Dumpster, I was shooting at him."

Royster said he fired a total of five shots and held the pair at bay until police arrived. It turned out the suspects were armed with nothing more than a BB gun, but Royster said he didn't know that until police arrived.

"If I would have known it was a BB gun when he threw it at me, I would have gone behind the trash can and gave it to him," Royster said.

Police charged Stanley Lamont Hasty, 27, of 2920 New Haven Drive, with attempted robbery with a dangerous weapon, injury to personal property, communicating threats, assault with a deadly weapon and assault on female, a misdemeanor probation violation and an order for his arrest on charges of driving while license revoked. He was jailed on a $48,000 secured bond.

Meanwhile, Calvin Earl McCallum Jr., 20, of 3613 Wishart St., was charged with attempted robbery with a dangerous weapon, police said. He was jailed on a $25,000 secured bond.

Durham police Cpl. David Addison said different people have different reactions when faced with a traumatic event.

"If someone is definitely in fear for their life, then by all means, they have to do what's necessary, whether it's fighting back or succumbing," Addison said. "Flight or fight depends on each circumstance and the variables involved."

Addison, who was not familiar with the case, said Royster might have crossed the line when he continued shooting after Hasty and McCallum had dropped the weapon.

"The way the law is written is that you can use equal force that was enacted upon you," Addison said. "When he throws the gun down and that threat is no longer apparent, you can no longer use deadly force."

However, it appears that police are not seeking charges against Royster, who said he was just defending himself.

"They had a BB gun," he said. "They could have died for $1,000."
 
What? Bad guys can't carry a BUG?

If you're ballsy enough to threaten me and IF I do feel threatened, I am threatened until the threat is neutralized. The person is the threat not the gun.

Throwing a gun ay me doesn't count.
After all even Superman didn't stop after the BG threw his gun at him.
 
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Yeah whats up with that? Why should that matter?
 
I like how the guy could've shot them through the van, but he "didn't want to shoot out a window.":D

As for throwing the gun...that certainly doesn't end the threat. The other guy could be armed, one or both could have BUGs, etc.

Great story though.
 
Making the assumption that a pair of armed robbers only has one gun between them could get you dead.

Just because they threw one down doesn't mean they don't have another.

Which means that a reasonable person would continue to treat them as dangerous--in other words, as long as they did not fully comply with the armed defender they are to be shot.

Unless someone can tell us the difference between the following two sentences.

1. The thieves sought cover and kept watching the victims.
2. The thieves ran and hid behind a dumpster--peeking out occasionally.

Then his occasionally popping at them to keep them from (coming out, shooting back, who knows what?) seems justified to me.
 
Rules for a gun fight

Rule #1) Have a gun before the gun fight
Rule #2) Bring a gun to the gun fight
Addendum to Rule #2... Make sure your gun is REAL..

someone pour some chlorine in that gene pool...
 
"I was trying to keep track of how many I was firing, because I only had one clip."

Wait -- he's got a Garand pistol? Sweet! :D :rolleyes:

"The way the law is written is that you can use equal force that was enacted upon you," Addison said. "When he throws the gun down and that threat is no longer apparent, you can no longer use deadly force."

It's no wonder crime runs amok when you stack the deck against the good guys. After all, the criminals weren't guilty, it was just the gun! And it wasn't even a real gun -- just think how brainwashed they would be if it was!

:scrutiny:

Wes
 
The robbers, apparently shocked by the turn of events, threw their gun at Royster and took off shouting for mercy, he said.
The way every street robbery should end. :D

Kharn
 
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