Arming anti family members

[Jack19]

I dunno guys, there are a lot of No answers here.

Personally, when the chips are waaaay waaaaay down, I'd rather hand a rifle to a recently former Anti, give them the 5 minute operations course, and show them in which direction to point it, than to take on whatever threat has caused them to suddenly become Pro-gun on my own.

 

[4thHorseman]

It's tough, but I would say probably no. I would not go out of my way for them and risk any of my immediate family health or life for them. Sorry but if they are to stupid to defend themselves now, what good would they be to me except to leech off of those that will defend themselves.
If he/she is a TRUE pro-gunner, they will not take up arms to defend themselves or my family.
Our family has made a decission long ago, they did also. So be it.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

I don't have any anti- family members or any family members that do not own guns. I might have to supply a little extra ammo on an "as needed" basis to some of them.

 

[geekWithA.45]

Case by Case, just for fun mind experiment

Here's the general breakdown, but the deeper the S gets, all bets are off.


Wife: Has her own.
Nuff said.

Dad: Yes.
My Dad has always been a reasonable guy: he personally detests guns, but supports everyone's right to have them, and supported me when I was younger. He's ex-navy, level headed, and trained.

Mom: No.
Freezes in a crisis, undependable judgement.

Sisters: Yes.
Classic left wingers, votes Democrat, but have good heads on their shoulders, can hold her own in a fight.

Best Friend: Not initially. Innability to focus, still hasn't internalized the trigger rule He needs work.

Other Best Friend: Has his own
Other Best Friends' Wife: Has her own

Other Other Best Friend: Probably, if he can keep his wife from screaming her head off (eeeeeeek! guns everywhere!) and giving away our position.

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Deployment:

Sisters, Other Other Best friend in reserve/guarding the kids, under the command of Wife.

Me, Dad, Other best friend & his wife rotate walking the walls, off duty guys in reserve.

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Probability of this scenario ever needing to be put into play: ZERO.

 

[Dave R]

What Jack19 said.

Since they have no training, I would only arm them for a last-ditch stand. Give them the simplest weapons (revolver, SXS, etc.) and the simplest instructions.

Anything other than last-ditch is probably wasted ammo at best, and life-threatening accident or tactical error at worst.

 

[Oleg Volk]

Train NGOs, time permitting. Give them guns once they are trained.

Do not give guns or anything else to antis. I don't associate with such people, but if any were around, I'd tell them to go away. Don't like them and consider them a dangerous liability anyplace close to me.

 

[.45Ruger]

Only my wife.

My wife isn't really pro or anti. She does not really care.

 

[4v50 Gary]

I'll buck the trend...

Worse case scenario I'll arm not only my relatives who are antis, but also all those who would stand by my side and join me in the fight.

Now, exactly who we're fighting against isn't clear. It's not one of those situations where we're barricaded against some sort of monsters that eat people or snatch bodies, is it?

 

[WhoKnowsWho]

My wife and I would of course be armed. But we do have a roommate who is very anti. He said if it came down to it, he would rather die, or let someone else die, before he pulled the trigger to kill someone else. So not only is he anti guns, he is very much a pacifist, or just not driven enough to act.

So alas, if worse comes to worse, he will be a decoy or human shield... I wish I could change it, but he hasn't budged.

 

[meathammer]

It would definitely depend on the given situation. If the person in question is Anti, they probably have a strong fear/ignorance of firearms. Time might not pemit you to properly teach them safety, functionality, aiming, etc. Because I have a big heart , I would give them an alternative to an evil gun. "Let's see, 20" katana, machete, camp axe, wrist-rocket, ...take your pick!

 

[sm]

NO
Immediate family is pro-gun...though majority don't shoot much. Dad has his own, and military experience. Sibs...all but one has guns, Sis-well- she is 4 hrs away, in a DV situation, and her dope head father of her kids stole her gun for dope...sorry Sis...tough love.

Friends, I hang with like minded ,pro-guns, we would assist each other..

Aquaintences...tough! Sheeple...something to distract wolves for the rest of us...

 

[buford1]

Its amazing how fast a anti will become pro gun when SHTF. During the LA riots several people wanted to borrow guns or ammo. When the rioting broke out they stopped ammo sales. Told them sorry but I just cant loan out firearms or ammo. My imediate family is pro gun and avid shooters.

 

[Mute]

Let them buy their own damn gun and see how "easy" it is to just get a gun! They can even try to take advantage of the "gunshow loophole" if they want.

 

[anchored]

No

I said no.
My wife and I, as a sort of gedanken experiment, have an hypothetical bomb shelter and hypothetical commune. We classify all out friends and relatives in terms of who gets in each and why, based on their abilities and personalities. Nobody I know who is "in" the bomb shelter is anti-gun. A few people who would be "in" the commune are, if not anti, at least lean that way, but they have other redeeming qualities that would make them nice to live nearby. But when it comes to survival, I want people who can survive without a babysitter.

 

[jmbg29]

Initially, I said no. I did that mostly because the one or two antis within the confines of my family are worthless. Not just to me, but to the entire human race.

Here is my compromise. They can have a gun after a 7 (business) day cooling of period. If within that time period, they cool off to room temperature, no deal! 'Kaay?

 

[illuminatus99]

I don't have any anti family or friends, a few of them don't own any guns but they'd take one if they needed it. my wifes side of the family is in the woods in northern MN and the woods in spokane WA, they're all hunters and wouldn't have any problem with hunting two legged varmints. my side of the family is pretty small and close by, my mom has a single shot derringer and that's about it, I suppose it TSHTF she'd want her shotgun back

 

[Kentucky Rifle]

I would not give a firearm to someone with no training/experience. I would consider giving a firearm to someone, in an emergency situation, who knew the 4 rules and had a little shooting experience. There is no use at all in presenting a firearm to someone who will end up causing more damage than preventing damage.

KR

 

[larryw]

Don't have any anti friends or family. Do have several who are non-gun owners.

A gun is nothing more than a tool. Mindset and training are the difference between it being a valuable asset and a potentially deadly liability. My answer would depend on these items, with the first carrying more weight than the second: with the right mindset, training is easy. I currently have a couple guns out on loan to non-gun owners

Getting back to the question, IMO just being an anti isn't grounds for refusal. But an anti would probably have the wrong mindset and that would be hard to adjust; accordingly, they'd be nearly impossible to train. They probably wouldn't meet my requirements for the loan as a gun in their hands would be a liability.

Didn't a bunch of the liberal-elite call Heston during the LA riots several years back asking to borrow guns? As I recall, his answer was, to the effect, "No, I couldn't possibly teach you how to use it safely in such a short time."

 

[LoneStranger]

And in a TEOTWAWKI situation you must remember that the Anti's have automatically classed themselves as the future serf's of those with the wherewithal to prepare.

Wasn't this same situation involved in developement of Feudal Societies?

By yourself you might have to consider arming others for your own survival. With proper preparation you will be working in concert with other likeminded people and the necessity of arming Anti's should never come up.

 

[ahadams]

give an anti an firearm? no way! OTOH, I have a couple of Cold Steel Bushman knives that can be fastened to a stick to form a spear...I might be convinced to give an anti one of those, just prior to booting him/her/it out the front gate...

 

[joeislove]

I don't have any anti friends left. They're all intelligent, and after a couple arguments, realized their stances were purely emotional, and lacked logic.

However, I only have a couple friends that own guns.

In a SHTF situation, I would arm those around me only in a desparate case. Say if we were under attack by looters or something. I would give them something with "an easy point and click interface" and tell them to keep the muzzle pointed away from us and toward the BGs. After it was over, I would pick it up again.

If I had the time, I would give them the safety lecture and let them shoot for a while, and then arm them.

After it was all over, if they were anti before, they sure as hell wouldn't be anti anymore. All I'd have to do is say, "What do you mean guns are bad? Remember when my gun collections saved our asses during the Food Riots of 2004?"

 

[NIGHTWATCH]

No, because this question has already been answered by family and friends. If the SHTF they all say, we are coming over to you!!! My response is just bring food, blankets, pillows, water and batteries.

Other than that, no. Giving a firearm to a family member who has never operated them can be deadly.