Armscor brass?

[TamThompson]

Is Armscor brass worthwhile to try to reload for .45acp? It's certainly a cheap brand, which makes me a bit suspicious.

Along those lines, what sorts of brass are best to reload for .45acp? I'm guessing Winchester and Remington are good, but what else? Anything to stay away from? Is Sellier & Bellot OK?

Thanks,

 

[stans]

I have yet to see any Armscor brass so I have no opinion.

S&B brass is fine, it is a little on the thick side and primer pockets are frequently on the tight side, but it seems to be quality stuff.

Remington brass tends to be a little thin and soft, I really don't care for Remington brass all that much. It is ok, but not my favorite.

Winchester brass is a couple notches above Remington as far as I can tell. It seems to be good stuff.

Federal brass is also good, although in 45 ACP Federal brass has a reputation for having thin case heads, something that Winchester brass does not suffer.

If you are planning on buying new brass, get Starline brass. This is very good brass and reasonably priced considering the high quality.


What to stay away from:

AMERC brass! Also called American Ammo. This stuff is total ! Do not confuse this with American Eagle ammo, that is just Federal's generic ammo and it is fine. American Ammo or AMERC will usually be found in ultra cheap plastic blister packs that rupture if dropped, squeezed or even looked at hard.

 

[Waitone]

.45 ACP is such a forgiving round its hard to find brass that will not work. The only exception that I'm aware of is AMERC brass. The stuff is truly bad.

All manufacturers have different characteristics, but it is all usable with one exception.

If you guage check each round as I do you'll see some brands check better but perform no different than others.

Just goes to show how astitute you were in going with .45 ACP.

 

[Ala Dan]

Armscor? I've never heard of it.

W-W, Federal, R-P, S-B, Speer all OK to reload.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

 

[Cacique500]

Armscor is made in the Phillipines IIRC and it's pretty cheap ammo (think less than blazer cheap). Shoots well in all my pistols and I have a ton of saved Armscor brass...so I'm also interested if anybody's reloaded with it.

 

[JA]

The only large amount of Armscor brass I have reloaded is 30 Carbine which I have loaded 3-4 times. Never had any problems with it or any of the few 9mm and 45acp Armscor brass I have picked up at the range.
The only brands brass that has given me any problems is Hanson 7.62x54R and American brand pistol brass. The American is very thin and I have had quite a bit of trouble reloading it as the cases buckle when seating the bullet. Also the primer pockets are large as you can't feel any resistance when seating the primers on some cases. The Hanson is soft and the cases strech excessively. I have had case head seperations after only a couple of reloadings.
In 1999 at the higth of the Y2K scare American sold tons of pistol ammo that was packed in sealed metal cans like vienna sausages/bean dip comes in with the pop top. So in 2000/2001 a lot of people shot it up so I was given and picked up lots of it. After a couple attempts to load the 45acp I threw all the American brass away.

 

[Gary H]

What headstamp does Amscor use? I've been tossing range brass with headstamps that I don't recognize.

 

[batangueno]

Armscor headstamp is "ACP" plus the caliber and year it was made.

I'm loading 9mm and 40SW and have no problems. Armscor cases are readily available here in the Philippines and i'm sure there are no problems with loading 45 as well.

I think PMC brass is also manufactured by Armscor.

 

[batangueno]

I forgot that older Armscor brass has the "AP" instead of "ACP".

 

[Cacique500]

Mine all has 'AP' on it for the headstamp (plus cal)