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Army vet disarmed of his AR and 1911 by cop

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nathan, Apr 16, 2013.

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  1. smogmage

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    That's defeatism talking. You're saying the quickest way to lose your RIGHT is to exercise it? Yea..... I cannot summon the words necessary to disagree with you in the Strongest of terms. Maybe we should stop saying "offensive" things in "sensitive" places before we lose the right to say anything at all. / end sarcasm.
     
  2. texasgun

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    If you think that OC in cities is a "right"....then good for you....

    OC is not a right and look what happened in CA when a bunch of people started parading around cities with OC but unloaded pistols and YouTube the cops being called in....
     
  3. smogmage

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    I don't no how many times it needs to be said but 2A reads in part "TO KEEP AND BEAR"
    A list of meanings:

    BEAR
    1 [bair] Show IPA verb,
    7.
    to hold or carry (oneself, one's body, one's head, etc.): to bear oneself erectly.
    12.
    to carry; bring: to bear gifts.
    17.
    to have and be entitled to: to bear title.
    18.
    to exhibit; show: to bear a resemblance.
    22.
    to have and use; exercise: to bear authority; to bear sway.


    How many more ways could the founders have written CARRY THE GUN DUH?
    Rights do not end where population centers start, or sensibilities get offended. kalifornstan unconstitutionally banned all forms of carry and now they are backed into a corner in which they will be forced kicking and screaming into obeying our founding documents.

    Second question is how many Texans don't support the 2A for exactly what it says?
     
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  4. texasgun

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    he could have carried a 1911 concealed with a valid CHL in Texas and nothing would have happened. Texas allows you to "keep and bear" arms... they just prefer the concealed way over OC.

    But no... this dude walks around with his AR15 (because apparently there are mountain lions in that part of Texas.... yeah... ROFL) - Cops get called in and he starts acting like a jerk (same goes for the cops)....

    sorry - everytime I see these "i OC and Cops stop me and I pretend to be the smart guy" videos on youtube... someone with too much time on their hands is craving for attention....
     
  5. HOOfan_1

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    According do whom? Just because there are laws against it? Yeah there used to be laws against non-whites voting too....hmmmmmm


    How many times.....seriously...HOW MANY times must it be pointed out that this guy is not even close to being in the city....watch the video....go ahead...watch it.


    HE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE
     
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    What happened in CA when a bunch of "socially deviant" individuals of various stripes asserted themselves aggressively for years on end? What happened nation-wide when oppressed minorities finally organized in a productive manner to demand better treatment under the law? Sorry, no one ever wins by staying home or being cautious. That's only good for holding ground from a superior position, and has been painfully ineffective in cities/states where gun owners are far outnumbered politically and popularly. Considering the massive influx of Refugee Banners into my state of Texas these days, I'm all for nipping this "Scared Idiot Cries Man With a Gun" nonsense in the bud.

    I agree, poking the bear is never smart when dealing with cops, especially when guns are involved, but this is increasingly becoming a civil rights issue for people. It would seem equaly stupid for Rosa Parks (not that I'm conflating these two people) to choose arrest over a back seat, but it was a civil rights issue, and civil rights issues illicit responses from people based on principle. Yes, principled people are stubborn blowhards--but that doesn't make them wrong, and sometimes their actions/sacrifices are absolutely necessary for the betterment of others.

    TCB
     
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    If the Supreme Court would rule on the words "bear" and "not infringe" with regard to arms, then open carry and most of the stupid laws would not even be in question.
     
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    QFT
     
  9. smogmage

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    Well hell yes, finally got a Texan in here to restore my suspicion that Texas is 2A friendly!


    Very true, although a sad lot we all are if three words can't be read for what they are. But hey, I've been having enough problems trying to explain that to the TEXANS in this thread. So you know we have some real problems.
     
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    "If the Supreme Court would rule"

    But they haven't and all the talk of what would be if they did is all pie in the sky.
     
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    Naw, Grisham is arguing his case in the court of public opinion. That his why he is playing up every angle possible, war veteran, rank, Boyscouts, his son being only 1 merit patch from becoming an Eagle Scout, that the cops should have known from his boonie cap that he was a combat veteran (that still makes me laugh because he looks like any other goofy guy in the video wearing clashing clothing), fear of threats not present and haven't been a problem, etc. None of this is relevant however, to the charges. Either he behaved properly before the video started or he did not. It doesn't matter who he is or who he thinks he is.

    No, he isn't. That is kind of the point. According to what he said on Glenn Beck, was in the city limits for Temple. However, maybe you can come up with a
    location (address, GPS coordinates, intersection) of the arrest and show us that it was in the middle of nowhere. I haven't seen where Grisham has disclosed this and the cops haven't either.
     
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    Its not what he was doing it was how he behaved when the police showed up. How he behaved prevented charges. The guy in the video appears to be looking for a fight. Guess his daddy never told him that you never argue with the police. Save your argument for your fay in Court.

    In any encounter you may have with the police if a gun is present the police will secure it until a determinaton is made to either send you on your way or arrest you. Its for the safety of all concerned.

    This guys actions are exactly what not to do during an interaction with the police. Makes us all look bad.
     
  13. smogmage

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    In more than a few cases it should have been the POLICE who secured their weapons for the safety of all concerned. Instead they wind up escalating the situation and killing someone, or accidentally shooting someone in the back.

    I don't know where this idea comes from that when the police show up everyone is a convicted felon unable to be in possession of a weapon until proven otherwise by background checks and the serial numbers checked. It's called Illegal search and seizure when there is No Articulate Suspicion of a crime, also known as a Violation of someones Fourth Amendment Rights.
     
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    Why do we need GPS coordinates...WATCH THE VIDEO.

    How anyone can watch that video and remotely compare the area being shown in the background to walking through the middle of a city is beyond me...:banghead:
     
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    City or no city, IT DOES NOT MATTER. My Right to Keep and Bear doesn't begin and end at the city line.
     
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    Bickering and going around in circles means we are done.
     
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