Artistic projects on cheap guns?

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Does anybody have any fun, creative ideas to apply to cheap guns? Let's say you've got your beat-up $50 Nagant carbine, if it's not going to be a valuable collecter anytime soon, maybe you could get some brass tacks to nail into the stock in a decorative pattern, like the Sioux did on their Winchesters. Then there's always ideas like doing the home-made "leaves and paint" camo-job on cheap rifles and shotguns.

I'm looking for little ideas of that sort, particularly ones that apply to pistols. I read an old Gun Digest article recently that showed a 1934 Beretta that had been extensively engraved by its bored owner over the course of WWII. Primitive and strange, but a fascinating piece of history.

Can your average fool with no training (e.g. yours truly) manage to add some quirky folk-art ornamentation to a cheap firearm with negligible resale value?

In particular, I've got a Bulgarskij Makarov with ugly surface wear and a horrendously massive importers stamp stipled over half the entire slide. I was thinking that I could grind off the stamp (not the serial!), maybe cut some cool geometric patterns into it, and do a cheap polymer or cold-blue refinish. Can this be done?

Along similar lines, there's a 1917 S&W with messed-up finish at the local gunmerchants. I've got some plans to get it off their hands, and since it's beat to hell but functional, it'd be a good candidate for decoration, being that it's pretty far down on the collectable list, destined to be a field gun. (a chill courses thru his blood as he wonders whether it's so cheap because it's actually a .455 Eley chambering, must check on that. It's right next to a .455 Colt New Service that's marked down from $700 to $500 to $400 to $300...)

Thanks for any ideas or insults, or especially cool photos of your partisan folk-art. -MV
 
On guns that are worn but still in good mechanical shape, the best thing you can do is bring them back up to original condition. A gun like the M-44 Nagant isn't worth restoring, not because it is a bad gun but because you can buy a new one for far less than the price it would cost you to reblue and refinish the stock.

I think I see where you are going with this. Your asking about guns that sell for cheap but could use an improvement. A new set of grips or a new stock will work wonders for the feel of an old gun. Putting brass beads or carving into the metal or the stock doesn't add anything to the looks of the gun. I have seen a lot of nice older guns that had their value killed by some fool attempting to carve a decoration into the stock or scratching them name on the finish.

I am not one of those guys that thinks everything needs to be kept stock on a gun and it is a sin to do custom work to a gun but I think whatever you choose to do should be an improvement. If you don't know how to carve wood or engrave metal, you are not going to do a good job you first time out. I would say to practice on something before you try it on your gun. Cold blue looks bad most of the time. I don't know of a home poly refinish kit but I wouldn't be surprised if there was one out there.
 
On the Nagant, you might want to consider cammo painting the stock. Use 3M furniture stripper to remove the old finish ...non-toxic and no fumes. Krylon makes cammo spray paint that is very durable. Do the stripping and painting with the gun out of the stock. I finish up with a couple of coats of matte clear polyurathane. I re-did several ugly guns this way with excellent results. There are different techniques for the painting the pattern, I used one that I learned from a book on bowhunting.
 
I've rarely seen a gun "improved" by amateur engraving of wood or metal. It generally looks horrible and makes you wonder how many hound dogs the owner has under the porch of his trailer...

However... if you go here; www.trackofthewolf.com You'll probably find some ideas or products that might let you (tastefully) "improve" your gun. They sell inlays like crests, eagles, badges, stars, diamonds - things like that, along with tools to inlet them into your stock. They also have kits for bluing, browning, color case hardening, nickeling, etc.

This stuff is for black powder arms, but some of it would work just fine on more modern pieces.

Keith
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. How else are you going to learn if you don't try? No one else may like it but if you do that's what counts.

Look in magazines and on the internet and find what appeals to you. Find as many pictures and such as you can. That's what I do. Quite often my first, second and sometimes more, attempts are pretty lame. But I keep trying different things until I get what I like.

Right now I'm working on some ideas for a pistol grip stock for my M1 carbine, a new stock for my SMLE and a buttstock and possible modifications to a 1911 frame for my MechTech.

All this talk about the FN P90 has led me to the idea of developing a bullpup stock for an M1 Carbine and converting it to 5.7mm Spitfire. Soon as I develop a stock I like I'll be happy.

Many gun owners, especially 1911 owners think that unless the modifications were done by a high dollar big name gunsmith then the pistol has been destroyed. Guess what, all these big name engravers and gunsmiths weren't born with their skills, they had to start somewhere.

Collectors think that if you do anything other than clean the firearm you've destroyed the value.

Go for it, try what you like and if it doesn't work, try again.
 
Customer of mine years ago had a fire. some of his late dad's guns were to far gone to repair and be safe.
He had them cleaned up, and he has bookends made from Lucite and Wood with the Luger his dad brought back and the Iver Johnson Revolver.

The little .25 ACP vest pocket gun was also encased in Lucite and Brass and serves as a pull handle for the dumb waiter in his home office.

Kinda neat idea , and retains the sentimentality.
 
Possibly I've been unclear...

I certainly wasn't talking about defacing vintage firearms, just asking what to do with firearms that are functional, but beat to heck and having no collector's value.

Especially this S&W 1917 I'm looking at: nobody will be using it for anything but a field/utility gun, unless fifty years from now even 1917s with 10% finish and dings skyrocket in value. Provided that the bbl isn't too bad, and it locks up firmly, it's still a good gun.

I just don't see what would be so wrong if one takes a dremel tool or file to it and does some crude etching. I can't imagine it looking any worse, and it'd cost far more than the gun would to have it polished up and reblued. If there is a better solution that would make it into a fun project gun, I'd be happy to hear it.

If anyone does know of any places to get tips for amateur engraving (or dremel-decorating), would be pleased to hear it. Yes, I'd definitely give it a shot on scrap-metal before tackling a pistol. Much obliged to everyone as always.
 
I suggested to an Englishman who built a Southern Rifle (flintlock) that to bypass the English importation laws, he run a electrical cord through the touch-hole (liner removed) and install a lamp on the muzzle. Add a lampshade and voila. Kentucky-rifle lamp.

Well, after a year he finally got approval to import his gun and took it to the proof house where it was proofed. His barrel now bears an English crown on it. Ohhh, I wouldn't mind that at all.
 
Carve it up with some "crude etchings" and it will never be worth more than fifty bucks because you've destroyed any aesthetic value it will ever have. The dremel is a BAD idea!

If you follow the link I gave you, you can find kits to polish and nickel plate the gun, or reblue, or color case harden the frame. You could refinish the grips and then inlay a silver crest, or eagle or something into them.

There are a lot of things you can do short of taking a dremel to a gun. Things that will increase the value rather than destroy all of its value. Things that will make it look better rather than worse.

Keith
 
there are cheap guns with naive art embellishments
and then there is:
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there are cheap guns with naive art embellishments

...and you posted a picture of one. ;)

(Plastic & sheetmetal just don't take deep relief engraving properly, especially deep relief engraving of the florid, Mid-East-inspired variety. ;) )
 
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