Asking to pull the trigger in the gun shop

I never ask. I just check the chamber and pull the trigger. Not going to buy the gun if I can't. I also hold the gun up to firing position, aim at something " where no one is" to check out the sights. I work the action, spin the cylinder, take out the clip, cock the hammer if it has one and feel the gun. Then I do it all over again with actual out of the box gun I'm going to take home. Not going to buy a pig in a poke "or box". If I can't. I'll just take my money somewhere else. Never Had Any Problems.
 
tws3b2 said:
I never ask. I just check the chamber and pull the trigger. Not going to buy the gun if I can't. I also hold the gun up to firing position, aim at something " where no one is" to check out the sights. I work the action, spin the cylinder, take out the clip, cock the hammer if it has one and feel the gun. Then I do it all over again with actual out of the box gun I'm going to take home. Not going to buy a pig in a poke "or box". If I can't. I'll just take my money somewhere else. Never Had Any Problems.
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You are exactly the customer no gun dealer wants in his store. "Spin the cylinder"? Really? Do that with a $300 Taurus and no one will care, but you do that to Colt Python and you'll get booted pretty quick.

If you asked to spin the cylinder and get permission its one thing, but you say you "never ask". IT AINT YOURS. Its rude.
 
Why? Will a colt python fall apart if you spin the cylinder??? A $300 Taurus can take it but a colt can't. I don't think I want a colt if that's true.
Funny I never had a dealer say a word. They were always eager to sell me a gun. They always say come again.
Rude???? That's not half of it. I test drives cars before I buy them. I'm Very Rude.
 
I always ask if I can cock the hammer, pull the trigger and give a good inspection to the gun but I would never spin the cylinder or Bogart the same. I've even asked to disassemble a firearm or have the salesperson do it for me if they know how. Only been refused a few times.

I don't drop the hammer on a .22 and check to see if anyone had by looking for that tell tail dimple on the chamber.
 
Haven't had a single gun shop ever say a word about me checking out a gun. Never.
That's why they take it out of the case and hand it to me. To check it out.
They tell you. After you buy that gun and you have problem Don't bring it back to the store. Send it back to the factory.
It would be foolish not to check it out the best you can Before you buy. Just plane foolish not to make sure as best you can before buying.
It's not my gun BUT I'm the one paying All the money. I'll be the one stuck with the gun afterwards.
All they have to do is no. But, They never have.
They say no and I take My Money Somewhere Else.
Simple as that.
 
Normally, I don't ask. The employee has already opened the gun up to make sure it is cleared but I usually double check it myself. I work the action of what ever handgun or rifle it may be to check the smoothness.
When I test the trigger weight/pull, I always keep my left thumb between the hammer and receiver so the hammer doesn't bang down on the transfer bar/firing pin. This allows me to slowly pull the trigger until it breaks and I can see how much creep, or roughness, the trigger has in it. This doesn't hurt the gun or me and lets me better understand a particular gun's functioning.
 
tws3b2 said:
Haven't had a single gun shop ever say a word about me checking out a gun. Never.
That's why they take it out of the case and hand it to me. To check it out.
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"To check it out" isn't permission to perform whatever examination you think is needed to meet your purchasing criteria. Sure, checking the trigger is not out of the ordinary, but "spinning the cylinder"? If you can't tell that the cylinder revolves within two or three dry fires you have no idea what you are looking for anyway.


They tell you. After you buy that gun and you have problem Don't bring it back to the store. Send it back to the factory.
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Because thats what the manufacturers tell dealers. They don't want dealers doing gunsmithing.

It would be foolish not to check it out the best you can Before you buy. Just plane foolish not to make sure as best you can before buying.
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Yet unless you actually fire a live round you don't know if the firearm actually works.;)

All they have to do is no. But, They never have.
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They don't say "No" because you said you never ask.....which is it?o_O
 
dogtown tom said:
"To check it out" isn't permission to perform whatever examination you think is needed to meet your purchasing criteria. Sure, checking the trigger is not out of the ordinary, but "spinning the cylinder"? If you can't tell that the cylinder revolves within two or three dry fires you have no idea what you are looking for anyway.



Because thats what the manufacturers tell dealers. They don't want dealers doing gunsmithing.


Yet unless you actually fire a live round you don't know if the firearm actually works.;)


They don't say "No" because you said you never ask.....which is it?o_O
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“Yet unless you actually fire a live round you don't know if the firearm actually works.;)”

#2 Pencil Fire Pin test. Take a #2 pencil, eraser side into the barrel. Dry Fire and evaluate pencil coming out of barrel
 
dogtown tom said:
"To check it out" isn't permission to perform whatever examination you think is needed to meet your purchasing criteria. Sure, checking the trigger is not out of the ordinary, but "spinning the cylinder"? If you can't tell that the cylinder revolves within two or three dry fires you have no idea what you are looking for anyway.



Because thats what the manufacturers tell dealers. They don't want dealers doing gunsmithing.


Yet unless you actually fire a live round you don't know if the firearm actually works.;)


They don't say "No" because you said you never ask.....which is it?o_O
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Good Grief, Tell you what.
You go on being ......... what ever you think you are
And I'll go on being Rude.
Now, Think I'll go to the gun shop and spin some cylinders.
 
Mark_Mark said:
“Yet unless you actually fire a live round you don't know if the firearm actually works.;)”

#2 Pencil Fire Pin test. Take a #2 pencil, eraser side into the barrel. Dry Fire and evaluate pencil coming out of barrel
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That tells you only that the firing pin is striking the primer.
On a semi auto there are a few other things like extraction, ejection, chambering that a pencil doesn't test.;)
 
As long as he doesn't try and close it when he spins it....what does it hurt?

It's like one of those fidget spinners for kids with A.D.D....only for grown men.
 
Mark_Mark said:
“Yet unless you actually fire a live round you don't know if the firearm actually works.;)”

#2 Pencil Fire Pin test. Take a #2 pencil, eraser side into the barrel. Dry Fire and evaluate pencil coming out of barrel
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when i was a teen my father had an old browning hipower.(kids do not do as i did- the gun was unsecured in a top drawer and i was doing it on the sly but knew not to point it at anything). he didn't maintain it and i was the only one oiling it every few months. i would make sure it was clear and field strip it (my brother showed me how) and after reassembling it. i would insert a pencil ,eraser down, and shoot it across the room before reloading the magazine with bullets. i was always amazed how far it went considering the small travel of the firing pin.
 
roval said:
when i was a teen my father had an old browning hipower.(kids do not do as i did- the gun was unsecured in a top drawer and i was doing it on the sly but knew not to point it at anything). he didn't maintain it and i was the only one oiling it every few months. i would make sure it was clear and field strip it (my brother showed me how) and after reassembling it. i would insert a pencil ,eraser down, and shoot it across the room before reloading the magazine with bullets. i was always amazed how far it went considering the small travel of the firing pin.
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Yeah, even back in the early 90’s, when I was 10-12 yo. My best friend was in a gun family. They had guns placed all over the house. We knew never to touch them without permission or we would lose a arm!
 
You can do research on the particular model to see if it known to have a good trigger or an adjustable one. I do not dry fire anything in a gun store or at a gun show. No real need.
 
Same, outside of some rimfire most modern guns are safe to dry fire, but as a courtesy I ask.
And usually that trigger pull is when I decide whether to buy or not. I don't dry fire just cause I'm curious.
Could also be a safety/liability issue.
 
If the hammer is exposed I'll pull the trigger and catch it with my opposing forefinger and thumb , Demo or Counter Guns are generally just that .
Collector pieces NOT on your life . Striker fired or hammerless I used to carry 9mm & .45 acp snapcaps when I'd go pistol shopping .
Ask sales person to see the weapon and RIGHT in front of him or her tell them EXACTLY what I was doing while they watched .

No faster way to make a BAD impression and possibly end up a causality ,then placing bullets into a gun inside a gun shop . Decorum dictates Politely asking with permission granted .
 
I always ask, am respectful in how I handle and point in a safe direction, after checking an empty chamber and magazine "more than once" so I am sure I didn't mis-see or miss anything.
I've never had a negligent discharge because I'm scared to death that I could have one.
Any store that won't let me properly inspect a firearm can sell to the yahoos and fruit loops, not me.

Most modern firearms are safe to dry fire. Always familiarize and know your firearm.
Some older rimfires are a no no for dry fire.
I have some P-345s among my collection that are newer firearms, even part polymer that are safe to dry fire with magazine inserted but NOT with no magazine because of the magazine disconnect safety.
From the P345D & P345 manual safety model owners manual page 17.
DRY FIRING
Going through the actions of cocking, aiming and pulling the trigger on an
unloaded gun is known as “dry firing.” It can be useful to learn the “feel” of your
pistol. Be certain that the pistol is fully unloaded (both the chamber and magazine
are empty) and that the pistol is pointing in a safe direction even when you are
practicing dry firing. The RUGER® P345® pistols can be dry-fired without
damage to the firing pin or other components as long as the magazine is inserted.
CAUTION: Dry firing your RUGER® P345® with the magazine removed may
result in damage or unnecessary wear to the firing pin blocking mechanism.

I'll reiterate that I'm respectful in all ways before I touch or squeeze any triggers and am ALWAYS a safety nazi.
I live by The 4 Rules of Gun Safety.
  1. Treat all guns as if they are always loaded.
  2. Never let the muzzle point at anything that you are not willing to destroy.
  3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot.
  4. Be sure of your target and what is behind it.
 
Many of the replies seem to focus on whether or not dry-firing or otherwise manipulating the gun has the potential for causing damage. I noted above that I always ask, even when I know it is "safe" to dry-fire a weapon. I do so primarily to show respect to the owner, whether it be a gunshop or a private individual. It's a subtle communication of respect that is welcome and often appreciated. I want the potential seller to think of me as a great customer, not some random stranger who bought a gun. I might be back, and reputation cuts both ways.
 
I ask as a courtesy. We have one LGS in our area that won't let you dry fire the guns he's selling. The exception is if you're seriously interested in buying the gun, and he's been okay with it if you hold a finger under the hammer to keep it from striking the firing pin. The other LGS's in our area have no problem with customers dry firing guns.
 
Sound advice Gunny G . Loaded or empty MY weapons are Never pointed in harms way ,unless of an imminent threat ; Then rule #2 is in full effect and as quickly as humanly possible .
 
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