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Asp 36 Remington

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Ironhand54, Mar 18, 2017.

  1. Ironhand54

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    Went to the K-zoo show today and came home with a new revolver. Unfired 36 caliber remington. The box is marked Euroarms but the gun is stamped with the ASP mark. Manufactured in 1974. 6.5 inch barrel. Compared to my NMA 44 the frame looks smaller, which I believe is correct. Looking forward to shooting this one.

    IronHand

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  2. BullSlinger

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    Beautiful gun. Hope it serves you well.
     
  3. Saddlebag Preacher

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    I did some research on these a few years ago when I was still reenacting. It is pretty accurately based in size on the original Remington .36. The current Pietta .36 remmie is just the .44 army with the smaller bore and is heavier. I tried to talk a friend out his for a long time without success. good find.
     
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  4. Cooldill

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    Those small bore Remys are sweet.
     
  5. bannockburn

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    Nice .36 New Model Army Remington! Had a Navy Arms .44 Model 1858 many years ago and decided to go small (caliber that is), this time around with a Pietta .36 Model 1858 for Christmas. Love the shorter barrel and better balance that it has over it's full size brother.

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  6. whughett

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    1248.JPG An older, 1964, navy Arms by Uberti. The Chamber mouths are chamfered on this gun and it shoots better with .380 balls Not as pristine as the others posted but a nice shooter.
     
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  7. kBob

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    Very nice and thanks for sharing. I do want one. Bid ( and lost) on one on Gun (make you go) Broker "for the wife" as she like the look of my pieta .44NMA but not the size weight or bark. I figured she might shoot it once or twice and then ....buwahaha....

    -kBob
     
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  8. bannockburn

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    kBob

    Interesting gun acquisition strategy. Let us know how it plays out if you do get a .36 Remington for your wife.
     
  9. whughett

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    Is it the photography or is the bluing that color. Very nice which ever.
     
  10. LonesomePigeon

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    Ironhand54, nice find. That's neat it has a smaller frame.
     
  11. bannockburn

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    Probably just the lighting. It actually has a pretty decent finish after I cleaned it up a little.

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  13. Ironhand54

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    the colt is prettier! :) hehe...
     
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    The Colt has been tuned up at Goons. The Remington's as they came to me, the 31 has a conversion cylinder for 32S&W. And yes I too think Colts are classier looking.
     
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  16. Gordon

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    well you guys got me and I just bought this
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/630875693
    seemed a fair price, I have an 1875 Remington .45 Colt by them which is sweet. I prefer a .36 pistol for most shooting and have an 1862 Navy and an 1851 Navy Colt . I was thankfull for the pictures posted in this link which showed relative sizes, could not find that anywhere else on Google and it was the Deal maker ! c:)


    Just a quick different question : are these made in Japan flinters any good ? I have some .688 balls around :)
    http://www.gunbroker.com/item/630763600
     
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  17. midland man

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    I didn't know lyman made bp revolvers so do they make or did they make 1851 navy's??
     
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  18. Gordon

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    I have no idea what they made over their history. I think these .36 Remmies were made before 80 and I am not sure of the maker yet. I have a Lyman Deer Stalker rifle , and a Lyman .50 Plains pistol made by Invest Arms which I take is ASM. I read on Google search about an Armi san Palo too and Uberti as suppliers for revolvers.
     
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    I don't think "Navy Arms " actually manufactured any thing. I think Val Forgett bought things overseas and put his company name on them.
     
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    Val Forgett and Bill Ruger worked together in Italy developing the investment casting process for making handguns. He used a facility in Italy to manufacture Navy Arms products. He died of a rare cancer in 2002.
     
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    I thought Invest Arms but no...
    http://www.investarm.com/eng/company.html
    ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. Replica Arms was the first importer for ASM revolvers, the first being the 1847 Walker. I do remember an article about this first revolver in that it was so exactly copied from an original that even experienced Colt collectors had difficulty in telling the prototype from an original. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers.

    Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron.

    I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back.
    Close but not a winner
    And I can't think of any other Italian manufacturer as you are describing, please tell.
     
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  23. Ironhand54

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    I would stay away from the Japanese pistols unless you can examine it. On some of them the breach plug is just press fit in, not a safe system. Also the lock internals are not hardened well.

    Ironhand
     
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    thank you for that ! :)
     
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  25. midland man

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    but that revolver he bought should be fine wouldn't think??
     

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